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Dr. Eddies Wingman

Brighter than thousand_suns
@Night Prowler - are you alive?

Also, this weekend I'm taking part in an intensive course in PPL theory. In order to take the exam, one is obliged to have 20 hours of classroom training with a certified ATO (aviation training organization). My 20 hours will be done by 1600 tomorrow. Then it's gonna be repetition, endless repetition like TAATG, until the exam in mid-March.

The classroom training is demanding, but fun. To the surprise of no one, most of the participants are true geeks and so are the instructors :D Cue frequent interruptions with technical discussions about maneuvering speed, carburetor icing, GPS positioning, you name it.
 

Diesel 11

As you scream into the web of silence...
endless repetition like TAATG
But just consider...
I have a theory about The Angel and the Gambler. Bear with me.

DIESEL THEORETUM MK I
Don't You Think I'm A Savior?

Now, the one thing just about everyone and their brother brings up when talking about The Angel and the Gambler - or The Angel and the Never-Ending Chorus, as I've heard it called - is that "goddamn" repetition. You know what I'm talking about and I've no need to explain this to you. It goes on forever, the same three questions are repeated again and again and again 'til you've just about decided you hate Maiden. It's stupid and worthless and makes The Angel and the Gambler the worst song in the band's discography. I, of course, disagree; I like it myself, even if I feel that it's out of place - it could have been used for a different song, instead of one about an Angel and a Gambler... dumb idea, maybe? Maybe. I still love this song.

But I digress - most people hate the repetition and feel it should not exist. Maybe Steve was just lazy, maybe Blaze was drunk, maybe they were all drunk, or maybe, just maybe, it's there for a reason. Is that a possibility? It's not one I personally ever thought of... until now. I actually sat down and thought it over. Could it be that the repetition is necessary to TAATG? And now I'm of mind that... it just might be.

Steve has basically said that all the song is is a little ditty 'bout and Angel and a Gambler, the latter on the road to Hell and the former trying to help him out of it. Some people have brought up the fact that an "angel" is a term used to denote a person who supports a gambler in his "sin" financially. I'm gonna take this entire thing a step further: What if there is no Angel?

That's right, you heard me. There is no Angel. None. Re-shift your entire focus and look at this in a new light:

Roll of the dice
Take a spin of the wheel
Out of your hands now
So how do you feel?
But you're not gonna win
You'd better go back again

Do you feel lucky
Or do you feel scared?
Take what luck brings
And be Devil may care
But you're down on your luck
What will the next day bring?

Most people assume this is the Angel speaking to the Gambler, setting the scene for his saving attempt and the song for us listeners. But look at it this way: what if this is actual the Gambler thinking about his circumstances and his lifestyle - he's completely addicted, and there's really no hope for escape. He tries to brush it off ("and be Devil may care") but he can't ("you're down on your luck"). Deep down, he knows this is the path to ruin, but the temptation is too strong for him.

Adrift on the ocean
Afloat in a daydream
Or lost in a maze
Or blind in the haze
So what does it matter?
So why don't you answer?
So why did you send
An angel to mend?

Again, the assumption is that it's the Angel singing this. It would make sense if the Gambler's trying to cast his Savior aside ("So why don't you answer?"), but consider this: the two preceding lines sound like they're coming from a completely different perspective. "So what does it matter?" and "So why did you send an angel to mend?" is something the Gambler would say.

If we've already established that the Gambler is talking / thinking to himself in the first verse, in that case, could he be doing the same thing here? After all, he's "adrift on the ocean... aloft in a daydream... or lost in a maze... or blind in the haze..." Could, in fact, the Angel actually be something he's conjured up mentally in front of him and not actually exist? Could his state of wanting out but not being able to get away from the devil's grasp be ruining his mental health?

Best make decisions
Before it's too late
Take all your chances
Take hold of the reins
A roll of the dice
Ahead of the game again

Nothing to lose
But so much to gain
A little danger
It goes without saying
But what do you care?
You're gonna go in the end

Once again, the Gambler is really fighting himself. Fighting his addiction, trying to get away from the evil that's possessing him, knowing that the more he gambles the more his life is burned up into ashes. He wants to lead a better life, he's really trying... if only the quicksand wasn't so powerful....

Gate open to heaven
Is ready and waiting
Or straight down to hell
Can go there as well


I'll suffer my craving
My soul's not worth saving
So why don't you go?
Just leave well alone

Again, it's always been assumed that the first part of this is the Angel speaking, and the second part the Gambler's response. But with this new theory... the first part could be the Gambler being conflicted still - what path should he take? Can he escape? Is it too late? The second part, then, is his temptation overpowering him once again, and he says "Fuck it" and begins the game again.

Don't you think I'm a savior?
Don't you think I could save you?
Don't you think I could save your life?

And now, of course, it's time for this song's main feature - that constant repetition of... the above. That Angel must be dumb as fuck to keep standing there repeating the same thing over and over and over, right? Time he got a life! Well actually... if we're going by the theory that this is the Gambler questioning his habits, in such a mental state that he conjures up and "Angel" (or could it be a Demon?) then this repetition makes a lot of sense. He keeps beating himself up over this. He can hear the Angel calling out for him to grasp his hand and free himself of this life, but the addiction's too strong...

There's like a hunger
That knocks on your door
You've had a taste of it
Still you want more
You've made your mistakes
Won't play it the same again


You have been warned
But still you plunge in
You play high stakes
But there's nothing to win
You've only one life
And so many things to learn


The Angel on one side
The Devil the other
Which path do you take
Decisions to make


Arrive at the crossroads
You know where you're going
And what if you wait
It may be too late

This is more of the same thing I was talking about above - the Gambler himself is trying to figure this out, no Angel in sight.

Don't you think I'm a savior?
Don't you think I could save you?
Don't you think I could save your life?

And finally our song ends, and we leave our Gambler still trying to grasp the "Angel's" hand, but is being pulled back by his temptation. Does he get out of this trap, or does he die the broken man that he is? It's all left up to us...

I also might as well bring up the music. TAATG is a pretty up-beat song for such a subject matter as I've outlined, but, we've already established that the Gambler is in a bad mental state, and the cheery music is intended as a contrast to the bleak lyrics. People who are, to use a straightforward term, "nuts" have a bunch of things goin' on upstairs, and the contrast between bleak lyrics and up-beat music cements this point.

Anyways, this is just something I came up with and thought I'd post here. You can choose to accept it, you can disagree, you can send me hate mail, or you can go on hating the song. I myself have convinced myself that I like TAATG better than I did before. When it all comes down to it, though...

THAT'S JUST A THEORY...
A MAIDEN THEORY.
 

Dr. Eddies Wingman

Brighter than thousand_suns
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Diesel 11

As you scream into the web of silence...
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Aye, but it's some fucking good repetitiveness. :ok:
 

Brigantium

General of the Dark Army
Staff member
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I heard that to the tune of The Wicker Man.

Your flying course sounds fun.
 

Black Abyss Babe

CriedWhenJanickCutHisHair
Good evening Maidenfans! I have just found something on YouTube that has made me extremely happy, so I am posting it here for the benefit of those with a similar taste in lunacy. Both series in full, UK dub, high quality:
Best animation ever, imo :).
 

Brigantium

General of the Dark Army
Staff member
A horseback safari. I'm never very convinced by those. Okay, so a horse can run faster than a human, but is it a good idea sitting on the back of a prey animal and walking close to lions?
 
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Dr. Eddies Wingman

Brighter than thousand_suns
Age is threatening my football career. After the last two training sessions and the last match, my groin hurt like hell as I got out of the car. Once again I'm thinking of retiring ...
 
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