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I think Nirvana is a good band but nowhere near their fans say it is. Incredibly overrated. Especially Kurt Cobain, of course. His looks and his early passing helped his legacy astonishingly.
 
I would argue, even though Nirvana was a very simplistic band (which tends to be one of the main arguments against their alleged greatness), that they are not overrated. The music is great, even though I myself prefer Soundgarden from the grunge erea (while the two share little in common music wise. It's like the NWOBHM phrase all over again), but the cultural impact Nirvana had is profound and justifies the esteem in which they are held. Music feeds off the fan reactions. Music can be very simplem but highly efficient. Kinda like Creedence Clearwater Revival, another equally simplistic band. Their songs do more for me in less than three minutes than other bands might do in 10 and while they are very simple they have me digging it far more than most progressive rock bands.
 
Being simple is not an argument I'd put against Nirvana, I listen to so many simple structured songs heavy artists. I just think they're not THAT good musically. Their songs are inconsistent. There are about five-six Nirvana songs I really like. My favorite probably would be Come as You Are which is a rip off.
 
Is it possible to agree with both of you?
Nirvana's cultural impact was undeniable, They produced a few unforgettable songs and achieved that rarity of owning a moment in time. They sounded great and they said something.

On the other hand the amount of great material they actually produced is really quite limited — not enough to warrant the amount of acclaim they are given. I think the lesson there is, there may be no better marketing tool than being struck down in your prime.
 
I loved Nirvana at the time, very no-frills music, generally putting making a statement ahead of complex music or elaborate showmanship. They matched the mood of the late 80s/early 90s extremely well, quite a contrast to flamboyant 80s popular culture.
 
I prefer Alice In Chains and Soundgarden when it comes to "grunge" (with quotation marks because those two are metal IMO).
 
Man, all the best grunge bands are taken, I'll go with Mudhoney then I think...;)

I love Nirvana. The fact that they are so popular with only 3 studio albums in their catalog speaks in their favor in my opinion. Kurt knew how to write songs. Just kind of ironic that while they were a "we're against corporate rock" statement band they were one the biggest mainstream bands around with their videos on constant rotation on MTV and radio airplay behind them. I guess that was Kurt's dilemma really.

I'd be up for a Grunge survivor, but only if we get to throw some more obscure grunge bands into the mix as well.
 
That's for sure. It would most likely end up being a battle of the big bands anyways since I suspect our knowledge and love of the smaller bands are more spread out between many bands....
 
SixesAlltheway said:
I love Nirvana. The fact that they are so popular with only 3 studio albums in their catalog speaks in their favor in my opinion. Kurt knew how to write songs. Just kind of ironic that while they were a "we're against corporate rock" statement band they were one the biggest mainstream bands around with their videos on constant rotation on MTV and radio airplay behind them. I guess that was Kurt's dilemma really.
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Well they never really were making an anti corporate statement. They kinda had that forced on them. Kurt hated being the poster boy for Generation X. I remember seeing a documentary where they pulled up some of his old diaries and in it he mentioned how he wanted to be a big rock star.

I'd be up for a Grunge survivor, but only if we get to throw some more obscure grunge bands into the mix as well.
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SMX was the grunge expert really, but he mysteriously disappeared. I don't know how keen I would be on having one, it's not my favorite sort of music.
 
Naw that's true. Well they had some, I remember them lashing out at corporate rock as they'd call it, making remarks about all the "old dinosaurs" of rock music and so on. I think Krist Novoselic might have had a few rants about that on stage too. Kurt never really said that much on stage.

I think the problem was really that at one point their whole grunge, anti-establishment, rebellious image WAS the mainstream :D of course they were different than the Beverly Hills watching - Dance music listening IN crowd (although that crowd too liked their Hits, Rape Me, Smells Like...Lithium, Come As You Are etc, but would never listen to anything off the first album except About A Girl) but they were still part of the mainstream, just at the other end of it :D
 
Krist might've been a special case. I think it goes unnoticed how different those 3 guys were. Look at Grohl, he loves classic rock, Sound City proved that. Kurt just seemed to go with the flow and only really cared about playing music. Krist was definitely more vocal, I remember seeing an interview where he goes off on a rant about Extreme, dissing them for acting like big rock stars. The other two guys don't say much. I don't think Kurt talked at all.
 
I wouldn't worry too much. Unfortunately, the people that have died were already dealing with some serious illnesses and no Maiden member is sick...that I'm aware of.... Try not to think about it...
 
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