Don't worry too much about it. I'm just going to make crap up and fix it later.
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Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Are you in CriedforBruce mode? Up til now, he was the only other member using bold text for addressing people.
Why not. 
There's no bluenaming like Facebook, and it's easy for the relevant person to miss a post if they scan through it fast.
Oh wait, does Harrisdevot not use the bolding thing too?
There's no bluenaming like Facebook, and it's easy for the relevant person to miss a post if they scan through it fast.Oh wait, does Harrisdevot not use the bolding thing too?
That sounds quite nasty
Maybe he only infects people who show an interest in British Lion
Maybe he only infects people who show an interest in British Lion
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
LC, about that oak question.
I found this:
http://www.vaartips.nl/hout.htm
Een houten zeilschip was vaak uit verscheidene houtsoorten opgebouwd: Amerikaanse olm voor de kiel, Afrikaanse eik voor de spanten, Engelse olm voor het vlak, Engelse, Baltische, Afrikaanse en Amerikaanse eik voor de huidplanken, Amerikaanse pine voor de dekken en mahonie of yellow-pine voor de beschietingen. Al dit hout moest per schip aangevoerd worden. Men bouwde hiervoor zelfs speciale houthalers, die langer waren dan gewone vrachtvaarders met een laadpoort in de achtersteven. Duits eikehout dat voor het grootste deel voor de Hollandse scheepsbouw bestemd was, werd echter per vlot langs de Rijn aangevoerd tot in Dordrecht, waar vanaf de 16e eeuw de grootste Nederlandse houtmarkt gevestigd was. Het vlotten van hout was zeer goedkoop en daarin lag een van de redenen waarom de Hollanders zo gunstig konden concurreren met andere landen. Het grootste deel van de Duitse wouden is zo in Hollandse schepen verwerkt.
Rough translation by yours truly (I left some things out because it was done rushy):
A wooden sailing ship was often built from several sorts of wood. American elm for the keel, African oak for the frame, English elm for the flat bottom of the ship, English, Baltic, African and American oak for the "skin planks" (don't know the English word), and mahogany or yellow-pine for the ?
All this wood had to be transported per ship. Special boats were built for this job, which were longer than normal freight ships, with a ? in the ??.
However, German oak, of which the largest part was meant for Dutch shipbuilding, was transported over the Rhine, by raft, to Dordrecht, where from the 16th century, the biggest Dutch wood market was based. ........... This way, the biggest part of the German woods were processed into Dutch ships.
So: in short: yes, big chance oak was used. If it was used by the Dutch, big chance others did that as well.
I found this:
http://www.vaartips.nl/hout.htm
Een houten zeilschip was vaak uit verscheidene houtsoorten opgebouwd: Amerikaanse olm voor de kiel, Afrikaanse eik voor de spanten, Engelse olm voor het vlak, Engelse, Baltische, Afrikaanse en Amerikaanse eik voor de huidplanken, Amerikaanse pine voor de dekken en mahonie of yellow-pine voor de beschietingen. Al dit hout moest per schip aangevoerd worden. Men bouwde hiervoor zelfs speciale houthalers, die langer waren dan gewone vrachtvaarders met een laadpoort in de achtersteven. Duits eikehout dat voor het grootste deel voor de Hollandse scheepsbouw bestemd was, werd echter per vlot langs de Rijn aangevoerd tot in Dordrecht, waar vanaf de 16e eeuw de grootste Nederlandse houtmarkt gevestigd was. Het vlotten van hout was zeer goedkoop en daarin lag een van de redenen waarom de Hollanders zo gunstig konden concurreren met andere landen. Het grootste deel van de Duitse wouden is zo in Hollandse schepen verwerkt.
Rough translation by yours truly (I left some things out because it was done rushy):
A wooden sailing ship was often built from several sorts of wood. American elm for the keel, African oak for the frame, English elm for the flat bottom of the ship, English, Baltic, African and American oak for the "skin planks" (don't know the English word), and mahogany or yellow-pine for the ?
All this wood had to be transported per ship. Special boats were built for this job, which were longer than normal freight ships, with a ? in the ??.
However, German oak, of which the largest part was meant for Dutch shipbuilding, was transported over the Rhine, by raft, to Dordrecht, where from the 16th century, the biggest Dutch wood market was based. ........... This way, the biggest part of the German woods were processed into Dutch ships.
So: in short: yes, big chance oak was used. If it was used by the Dutch, big chance others did that as well.
Thank you, Foro.
Of course, the sort of ships I'm talking about were built in entirely different locations and American elm wasn't available, and was built a full 100 years before the Dutch became a naval power. But my own research has indicated that oak is the most likely material as well.
Of course, the sort of ships I'm talking about were built in entirely different locations and American elm wasn't available, and was built a full 100 years before the Dutch became a naval power. But my own research has indicated that oak is the most likely material as well.
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
Will there be keelhauling in your story?
No, because keelhauling didn't actually happen very often, and was pretty much an Atlantic thing...my story won't leave the Mediterranean.
Crimson Idol
Caveman
There was an old spanish galleon wreck where I used to go on holiday, well. I say a wreck.. after several storms a few years back there's only 2 beams sticking out the sand as the rest is buried. I've swum out to it (it's not that far, on a really low tide day you can walk to it) and seen it, but I can't say I ever asked what it was made of. My apologies!!
Moon Child
Ancient Mariner
On a completely unrelated note to the current topic, its lunch time! Relaxing in my car while its windy and cold outside. 
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
A galleon isn't a galley, so it's no big deal!
My very great apologies. But corsairs are pretty much just cooler than regular pirates.Bummer
I only know of oak being used in 15th and 16th century ships, but that's French, English and Northern European ships, where oak was a major commodity. I have read that Mediterranean ones used a variety of woods.
You won't. Teddy Roosevelt already did all of science's hunting.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
You're welcome!
You said mid 16th century, and I assumed my part was about/from 16th century.
The same site mentions oak for earlier centuries (e.g. from Balkan and Italy) so it's indeed safe.
Good luck with the book. Nice idea!
Hunt what, exactly?