I think we've successfully made our points about this matter. What I don't get though is why you don't have high opinions of Atatürk. You've agreed to many points I made in regards to why I like him. Your points about Greeks, Armenians etc. has much do to with Ottoman Empire (which eventually the conversation led us to) but not Republic of Turkey and Atatürk himself. I do agree educational system wasn't enough to compete with Europeans but considering the place was already trash, it was a good way to start. It was more about changing philosophies rather than building up structures anyway. Shame Atatürk died too young, he wanted to explore more about educational system in Turkey.
I'm pleased that we agree on almost everything besides the confusion about these matters. Good to discuss with someone who knows his business well. Good night.