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Hey, just noticed I passed 1000 posts in the past week or so.
Where are we hosting the party? NOMS may be the best place to start.
 
Perun said:
Quest for Fire is a surprisingly good film. I told some people about it, and when they heard it's about a bunch of Neanderthals looking for fire, they thought I was insane. Especially when I further elaborated on how they meet a girl who teaches them to feel, laugh and love. But despite it's perceived whackyness, it really is a good film.
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Looking forward to it and will record it!
 
I'm fucking exhausted.... and work starts again tomorrow! Eh. So, less than a month and my son goes off to college! My house is going to feel empty....

@LC, have you looked into any spoilers as to who they think the villan will be in the new Star Trek movie? I did and am kinda surprised...
 
Alright. I am gonna put the rest of my thoughts about the upcoming Star Trek movie into spoilers. DO NOT READ IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

The script idea including Khan was tossed to JJ Abrams during the filming of Star Trek. A deleted post-credits scene was going to show the Botany Bay floating in space. But JJ pulled that in case he decided against a Khan story. The reason the movie was delayed a year was because of their uncertainty over using the Khan script. Abrams was well aware if they fuck it up, they lose the fans.

They looked extensively for someone they felt could carry the Khan flag, and settled on Benecio Del Toro. But Del Toro dropped the project and it went into hiatus for four months. They pretty much screen tested every Latino actor in Hollywood, and several non-Latinos they felt might carry the project, and Abrams was ready to toss the entire script. Then Benedict Cumberbatch walked in.

Cumberbatch is a life-long Star Trek fan and his work in Sherlock on the BBC has gotten him international acclaim. He's in huge movies, such as Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, War Horse, and The Hobbit in a lynchpin role as Smaug, so he's definitely shooting up. Apparently he gave a 1/2 hour unprompted audition and JJ was convinced that he could be Khan.

I trust JJ and I think Cumberbatch is a great actor. He'll do to Khan what Chris Pine did to Kirk - strip away the things we knew about his mannerisms and leave the core of the character. He won't be impersonating Ricardo Montalban, which I think is a good tack to take. I could be wrong, and I remain open to that possibility, but based on the tweets during filming from Chris Pine, Zach Quinto, and Simon Pegg, the principle actors all got along really well on set (culminating in an unscheduled midnight party in San Francisco with those three and Cumberbatch) and I always think that is a damned good sign for a movie. It means more chemistry in the characters.

It comes down to whether or not you trusted JJ Abrams as he destroyed Vulcan, killed Kirk's father, brought Spock back in time, and put Christopher Pike in a regular wheelchair (beep beep). I think he's earned my trust, and I will once again be first in line for a Star Trek movie he's made.
 
My response was not so much based on the fact that it had been spoiled for me, but more because of this:

The reason the movie was delayed a year was because of their uncertainty over using the Khan script. Abrams was well aware if they fuck it up, they lose the fans.

So here's my thoughts:

In hindsight, I'm not sure if the reboot was that good of an idea. It worked for one film, but mostly because it could feed off nostalgia and Trekkie sentimentality. The "alternate timeline" was of course a cop-out as to not enrage the fanatics. But I really don't think that there will ever be any other production based on the established continuity. Which is a shame, because there are a lot of stories yet to be told. Anyway.

Having just re-watched Wrath of Khan last week, I can't blame them for wanting to use Khan for the next film. He is a great villain. But I'm not sure if he will hold up once again. The TOS episode and Wrath of Khan really have pretty much everything about Khan covered. What could a new film possibly add? What we are looking at now is probably a feature film remake of Space Seed, which might work and might not. And if it doesn't, that would be pretty terrible.

What I expect is that the film would include a lot of set-up for the Wrath of Khan story, no matter if it is going to be remade or not. But the reason why Wrath of Khan worked so well was because it was an unexpected sequel to a half-forgotten television episode - the same way the story itself would have worked for its characters. Who remembered Khan? Who would have expected to ever hear from him again? That's what made him such a great villain in the movie: He knew that, and that was what drove him insane in the first place. Plus, he was amazingly well-played.

In other words, you could say that I expect this reboot to stand or fall based on how they deal with the Khan story.
 
I agree with you, 100%. If they fuck this, it's over. JJ knows that. It's a hard subject to approach. But they've also done some great jobs setting it up in Enterprise. Love the show or hate it, the 3 episode Augments arc with Brent Spiner as Arik Soong was a fucking incredible story, and there's the possibility to use some of that to change the destiny of the Botany Bay. I do not know ANYTHING about the storyline other than the bad guy is Khan. But the writers have said "It's not just a remake of Space Seed", so. Who knows.
 
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