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Travis_AKA_fonzbear2000 said:
You don't like Pyromania? That's my personal favorite.
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Not really. Personally, I was around at the time of "On Through the Night" and that was one of the must have albums of the time - along with Maiden's eponymous debut. But I just could not get into Def Leppard once they started to play to a more American audience - if you see what I mean.
 
Albie said:
Not really. Personally, I was around at the time of "On Through the Night" and that was one of the must have albums of the time - along with Maiden's eponymous debut. But I just could not get into Def Leppard once they started to play to a more American audience - if you see what I mean.
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But once Maiden got more popular in America, you could still get into them?
 
Albie will answer, I'm sure, but it wasn't the popularity  that was a turn-off, but the 'commercialization' of their music to appeal to a 'pop-metal' craving American audience.
 
Wasted CLV said:
Albie will answer, I'm sure, but it wasn't the popularity  that was a turn-off, but the 'commercialization' of their music to appeal to a 'pop-metal' craving American audience.
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Pretty much what I was typing here:

The big difference between the way Maiden approached the American market and Def Lepprd is that Maiden never forgot where they came from.
 
They really hit the skids after Hysteria (although, commercially it was hugely successful).  Now, I'm more likely to play tunes off their first two albums and not much else.
 
As long as the music is great, why should it matter? If Maiden had used the same approach, would that have stopped you from liking them? As long as the music is great, I don't care what the band does.
 
Well, thats the rub.  Had Maiden gone 'commercial' like DL did (emulating much of the 'hair metal' that came out of LA), their music wouldn't have been as good.  Maiden, however, stuck to their guns and created true heavy metal.  DL went down the avenue of pop metal and it wasn't as good.
In essence, had Def Leppard remained 'true' to their original music style, they would still be making albums that I enjoy, just like Maiden's TFF.  They don't, so I am not inclined to pick up their stuff, like a cover album of 80's tunes.
 
Travis, the music is important I grant you that - but the feeling behind it, the way it was carved out, the emotion behind the song, etc.
 
What I mean is, what if Maiden had used the same approach as Def Lep, but kept their sound the same and still released the same songs? Pyromania was not pop metal in any way, but that's when you think they seemed to use that approach since you'll only listen to the first 2 albums?
Albie said:
Travis, the music is important I grant you that - but the feeling behind it, the way it was carved out, the emotion behind the song, etc.
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So, now you're changing it a bit I think? So, it doesn't really matter to you what approach the band uses as long as the music is great?
 
Travis_AKA_fonzbear2000 said:
So, now you're changing it a bit I think? So, it doesn't really matter to you what approach the band uses as long as the music is great?
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I'm not changing it, I'm suggesting that Maiden always put the thought behind the music first - before trying to make a few quid.
 
I see what your getting at. If each album was as they are and Maiden's prime objective was to make money and sell albums, then I would still appreciate each album in the same way. BUT, there is no way Maiden would have produced what they have done with that objective.


Metallica, for example, when they really get behind the music they are (possibly) better than Maiden, but they have had one too many off moments. And look what happened when they just tried to sell albums!
 
That's true. Maiden wasn't going for a sound to make them money and neither was Def Lep until AFTER they were popular with Pyromania and they did it on Hysteria.
 
I'll give Pyromania another listen then. ;)

For me - it's almost midnight in my world.
 
I disagree. Pyro, although not as commercial as Hysteria, is still more commercial driven than On Through The Night. It (Pyro) is a fine album (I've worn out many cassettes), but not near as 'metal' as the first two.
 
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