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I haven't made the most in-depth studies into Alexander so I can't speak about their failings of relating history, but I do love the lyrics for their textbook-type writ. It makes it a stand-alone song that isn't like all of the others Maiden has done.
 
Most Maiden lyrics tend to go for more of a proper storytelling pitch, with scene-setting or personal insight. I find Alexander's lyrics bland by comparison.

Forostar said:
Very different intros. Very different verses. Not unimportant: very different tempos. Mother Russia does not have a chorus. Vocal melodies are very different. Very different lyrics. Very different endings.
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I read this to the tune of the Moonchild intro. Was that intended?
 
Brigantium said:
Most Maiden lyrics tend to go for more of a proper storytelling pitch, with scene-setting or personal insight. I find Alexander's lyrics bland by comparison.
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Quoted for truth. :D

Brigantium said:
Forostar said:
Very different intros. Very different verses. Not unimportant: very different tempos. Mother Russia does not have a chorus. Vocal melodies are very different. Very different lyrics. Very different endings.
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I read this to the tune of the Moonchild intro. Was that intended?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
That's absurd. Rhythmically TTAL vocals are awesome, the vocal flow is insane and non-artsy lyrics work great. Technically it is the most demanding Iron Maiden song for vocals.

ATG lyrics suck and vocal delivery sucks too. "Heeee dieeeeeed of FEEEEVEEEER in Baaabylooon" my ass. Also, last lyrics on TTAL are a part of the vocal buildup that's reminiscent of Rime.

In any case, TTAL is one of the best songs they've ever written and possibly the heaviest song of theirs. The groove, the downpicked riffs, minor to minor scale transitions, atypical structure, TTAL shares its place as the ultimate Maiden 1980s epic with Seventh Son title track. Rime isn't even the best epic on that album (Powerslave is).
 
Zare said:
TTAL shares its place as the ultimate Maiden 1980s epic with Seventh Son title track. Rime isn't even the best epic on that album (Powerslave is).
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Hallowed Be Thy Name is the ultimate Maiden song, so obviously it's the ultimate epic from the 80's as well.
 
Poto said:
Hallowed Be Thy Name is the ultimate Maiden song, so obviously it's the ultimate epic from the 80's as well.
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The thing had a rushed writing, it was scrambled with parts of other people's work. Even the main riff resembles the hum melody from PF's Pigs, and that's on the Harris favourite PF album.
Also, the songwriter was never satisfied with the rhythm section (!), once McBrain came they've changed the drum beat and the bass-drums interplay (accents). Also, one of the two guitarists wasn't satisfied with his solo at all, constantly changing until it was delegated to someone else.

How can this be an ultimate Maiden song is beyond me.
 
Zare said:
That's absurd. Rhythmically TTAL vocals are awesome, the vocal flow is insane and non-artsy lyrics work great. Technically it is the most demanding Iron Maiden song for vocals.

ATG lyrics suck and vocal delivery sucks too. "Heeee dieeeeeed of FEEEEVEEEER in Baaabylooon" my ass. Also, last lyrics on TTAL are a part of the vocal buildup that's reminiscent of Rime.

In any case, TTAL is one of the best songs they've ever written and possibly the heaviest song of theirs. The groove, the downpicked riffs, minor to minor scale transitions, atypical structure, TTAL shares its place as the ultimate Maiden 1980s epic with Seventh Son title track. Rime isn't even the best epic on that album (Powerslave is).
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I disagree with all of this post...
Zare said:
The thing had a rushed writing, it was scrambled with parts of other people's work. Even the main riff resembles the hum melody from PF's Pigs, and that's on the Harris favourite PF album.
Also, the songwriter was never satisfied with the rhythm section (!), once McBrain came they've changed the drum beat and the bass-drums interplay (accents). Also, one of the two guitarists wasn't satisfied with his solo at all, constantly changing until it was delegated to someone else.

How can this be an ultimate Maiden song is beyond me.
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...but I agree with most of this. :P
 
You can't disagree with all because some of it isn't opinion, it's factual, like the technical difficulties in TTAL vocal delivery. You can't disagree on Deja Vu having more demanding drums than Futureal. If you compare ATG and TTAL lyrics on paper, they're similar in their essay-like style, without much artistic substance. But the delivery, e.g. Harris "pinning down to syllables" is completely different. TTAL delivery is unique in its rhythm to syllable aspect, ATG is just corny lyrics. There's so much room on the end of lines, inside same measure Dickinson is sustaining last vowel for a second before the next measure, the vocal melody is dead on dull (alternating between root and 5th all the time)...I could go on but it's tiresome explaining music this way.
 
Zare said:
Nice argument, do you have a degree in Theology maybe?
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You can mention drum patterns, guitar solos, rushed writing etc. It doesn't matter. Hallowed is the song most Maiden fans would pick as their ultimate song. Probably most of the band as well. That's the only thing that matters.
 
The theft of Beckett lyrics doesn't matter? You don't have any proof that most Maiden fans would've picked it, you don't have any method of ascertaining who's a true fan and who heard just a bunch of songs and claims to be.

The only thing that matters is that you don't have any sort of validation for your claim. The process of writing, together with the origin of important lyric lines, the iterative changes to the song rendition in following years, don't indicate that Maiden thought "this is our magnum opus".

The simplest proof for your "ultimate" song would be number of professional critics (that tend to be Maiden fans sometimes, too) who noted the absence of Hallowed as a big con for the tour. If this is truly their magnum opus played on every tour since inception, there would be a fuss about it, wouldn't it? What happened in reality is a lot of people present on the average concert of the tour didn't even think about the absence and a vast majority of attendance won't even be aware about the litigation thing.

Sorry mate, you cannot come to fan forum and say that your ultimate Maiden track is everybody's ultimate Maiden track. If it were that simple, we wouldn't have tens of thousands of messages in the commentaries and the voting section ;)

Rime beat Hallowed head to head here. Before McKay stuff.
 
Zare said:
Sorry mate, you cannot come to fan forum and say that your ultimate Maiden track is everybody's ultimate Maiden track.
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While I share the opinion that "Hallowed..." is not their ultimate track (to me, that's "Rime..."), I have to disagree with this very statement: like it or not, on this very forum, "Hallowed..." is still Maiden's best voted song. Not just here... nearly everywhere.
 
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