Judas Priest

The 70s era really grew on me after a few years of listening to Priest. It's true, it was different than what came later. I still consider DotF and Painkiller the band's greatest records, but the vibe of the early records is just unique. I have no doubt that - in the context of the music itself, not the image or anything else - the "S trilogy" is Priest's most important period. It's basically the foundation of almost everything that was happening in classic heavy metal in the 80s. Sin After Sin is my personal fav (the Here Come the Tears/Dissident Aggressor duo must have been shocking back in the day), but Stained Class is probably the most "complete" record from that era. It's the one I keep coming back to pretty often in the last several years, it's never boring to revisit the album. It's interesting how many thing from the 70s era were later borrowed by younger bands - Stained Class pretty much gave birth to Mercyful Fate. Melissa is more or less the continuation of the SWoD-SAS-SC run.

Priest started in the 70s and it was very commong for artists from their generation to struggle in the 80s. Many musicians who were already big in the 70s had problems with facing changing trends and expectations later in their career. Generally speaking, Priest are associated with the 80s (which isn't strange or wrong by any means, it was their commercial peak), but in fact they were already "old" when albums like Screaming for Vengeance or Turbo arrived, not to mention Painkiller. The 80s were also much less experimental decade in general. Of course, new genres appeared, but it was a simpler decade.

Even if you look at Killing Machine, it's an adventurous album. Some of the songs are pure heavy metal (Hell Bent for Leather), but at the same time there's Take On the World, which was supposed to be something like Queen's We Will Rock You, there's Before the Dawn, there's Burnin' Up (IMO one of their most unique tracks - it's basically a mix of disco and heavy metal). Later they stopped doing things like that. Tbh the only song that comes to my mind is The Rage, which mixes metal with reggae (I'm not counting United since it's a rather poor attempt to replicate the Take On the World formula). SfV, DotF or RiD are much more straightforward albums.

The variety of the songs is something I like about the early stuff, but it can be a problem too. For example, I've never really liked Epitaph. Again, it's clearly influenced by Queen's songs and it's not bad per se, but does it make sense to listen to it right after hearing The Ripper or Victim of Changes? I wouldn't say so. Last Rose of Summer is another example in this matter - it just makes no sense to me, in the context of the whole record. But then again, this isn't something they were thinking about in the 70s. They were experimenting and writing music for fun, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. That's why Sabbath wrote Changes or Who are You? in the same decade. It was a different era, a different approach to making music, people who we call pioneers today didn't care about such things at all. They probably weren't even aware of the influence their work would have on other artists.

In the ’70s, Priest were still forming their identity. You can definitely hear echoes of Black Sabbath in some songs, and even Queen - I agree, that influence is quite noticeable.

Maybe by the ’80s, being a relatively older band, they were a bit mismanaged or slower to adapt to changing times - at least in terms of communication and live presentation? Just a guess. Their stage show does feel somewhat underdeveloped earlier on, and only really steps up around Defenders of the Faith and Turbo. In that sense, they really needed someone like Rod Smallwood.

I agree that Killing Machine is somewhat experimental, though I’d say it’s also their first real step toward a more commercial direction. To me, it’s a bit of a mixed bag. The production feels muddy or lacking bite, and while some songs are great, others lean too much into commercial territory.

Great:
“Delivering the Goods,” “Hell Bent for Leather,” “The The Green Manalishi” - live, this is one of my favorites. Priest were really great at making cover songs their own, “Before the Dawn” - it feels complete in its own right and even reminds me of UFO.

Mostly Good:
“Rock Forever,” “Evening Star,” “Burnin' Up,” “Killing Machine,” “Running Wild”

Meh:
“Take On the World,” “Evil Fantasies”

I also think their ’70s albums can feel a bit uneven at times, which makes sense since they were still shaping their style. For example, “Last Rose of Summer” isn’t a bad song on its own, but after the punch of the opening tracks, it feels out of place to me.

That said, when a song is truly great - like “Before the Dawn” - you accept it without conditions. In that sense, Sin After Sin loses out to Stained Class, which flows much more smoothly as a complete record without that “something feels out of place” effect. Just imo.
 
I wouldn't say that the music Priest were making in the 70s was inspired by Black Sabbath. They certainly admired Sabbath since they were into what the quartet and it was definitely inspiring to see other guys from Birmingham become a big band. But songwriting wise, I don't see too many similarities between their records. Stuff like Victim of Changes or Island of Domination can sound kinda similar to Black Sabbath, but that's because both bands were rooted in blues. Which was nothing strange since blues was very often explored by hard rock/metal artists in the 70s. I'd say that the early Priest records are more connected to the Mk II Deep Purple efforts, with Halford's high notes being the most obvious example to support this argument. But yeah, Queen's influence is totally noticeable. I'd even say that you can hear some Pink Floyd's infulences on Rocka Rolla (Run of the Mill).

They definitely needed a Rod Smallwood, but sadly they got Jayne Andrews. We all know the problems that occured after her arrival, in fact I think she still is a problem. With a good manager looking over the band, they would have invited KK back after Glenn's medical issues made it impossible for him to perform.

When it comes to the visual aspect of their shows, I gotta say I've never thought about the thing you mentioned. Yeah, the pre-DotF stage sets were very simple, but on the other hand, the production for the Fuel for Life Tour was so expensive that they didn't make a penny off it. Which sounds strange, especially since 1986-87 were good years for the band, but then again, they should have had people to calculate the costs.

Killing Machine definitely was supposed to be a more commercial record, although I think I prefer it over British Steel. I don't consider it a great release by any means, but it's just fun. It's also the album with the lowest vocals by Halford, so it's refreshing to hear how he changed his technique for Killing Machine. I might be wrong, but the opening vocals from Savage are the highest notes he's ever sung. Considering the fact that Killing Machine was released in the same year, it's nice to notice the contrast between the two albums.
 

A new ''Best Of'' to go with the documentary. Why? 16 songs, not from all albums (including 2 covers and songs like Crown Of Horns, Lightning Strike, Rocka Rolla).

The most interesting thing is the cover - a new creature (maybe from Invincible Shield's ideas? They like to create such ones), looks cool. I wonder who is the artist.
 

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Until recently, I rated British Steel very highly. But then @MindRuler opened his mouth (ha, ha) and said he thinks the record is overrated. At the same time, I was going back and forth between Sin After Sin and Stained Class, and - voilà - my opinion shifted. Now the shine of British Steel doesn’t feel quite as bright; it’s a bit… rusted. Fuck!

That said, I still rate it higher than Killing Machine. It’s much better produced - perfect for my taste. The whole album has that quality (minus “United”) where you can listen to it in one go. It’s mostly fast-paced, well played, spacious, and warm - a real cruising record.

Regarding @Kalata’s posted artwork - I might be wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was AI-generated. It has certain qualities that point in that direction, although I could be mistaken.

Also, the inclusion of two cover songs shows that Priest are proud of them. I like how they treat covers - they really assimilate them into their own style. Metallica do the same. That said, I was a bit surprised to see “Better by You, Better Than Me” on that list (even though I like it) instead of “The Green Manalishi” I guess they were being a bit creative with their choices.
 
Until recently, I rated British Steel very highly. But then @MindRuler opened his mouth (ha, ha) and said he thinks the record is overrated. At the same time, I was going back and forth between Sin After Sin and Stained Class, and - voilà - my opinion shifted. Now the shine of British Steel doesn’t feel quite as bright; it’s a bit… rusted. Fuck!

That said, I still rate it higher than Killing Machine. It’s much better produced - perfect for my taste. The whole album has that quality (minus “United”) where you can listen to it in one go. It’s mostly fast-paced, well played, spacious, and warm - a real cruising record.

Regarding @Kalata’s posted artwork - I might be wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was AI-generated. It has certain qualities that point in that direction, although I could be mistaken.

Also, the inclusion of two cover songs shows that Priest are proud of them. I like how they treat covers - they really assimilate them into their own style. Metallica do the same. That said, I was a bit surprised to see “Better by You, Better Than Me” on that list (even though I like it) instead of “The Green Manalishi” I guess they were being a bit creative with their choices.

I'd say the songs included are from the soundtrack of the film, and BBYBTM was always going to be featured if the suicide trial is covered.
 
It's a pointless release, but it's possible that the songs featured on the album appear in the movie. However, I find it funny that Rob says there'll be no new live album since they aren't profitable... While this compilation is supposed to be profitable. It makes no sense, but then again, I guess I got used to stupid decisions made by the band/Jayne.

Wouldn't be the first time they're using AI, sadly.
 
It's a pointless release, but it's possible that the songs featured on the album appear in the movie. However, I find it funny that Rob says there'll be no new live album since they aren't profitable... While this compilation is supposed to be profitable. It makes no sense, but then again, I guess I got used to stupid decisions made by the band/Jayne.
A live album requires equipment rental, mixing/mastering, overdubs, extra studio time, etc. etc.

A compilation just needs art (even this crappy art) and a PR push.
 
A live album requires equipment rental, mixing/mastering, overdubs, extra studio time, etc. etc.
I'm sure they made tons of money on the youtube broadcast Andy mixed from the last tour. :p

So essentially, they could have just printed it and shipped it and it would have been free money, as it was done already. Hell, Andy had even smoothed the vocals with a tad melodyne. Then Andy could have spent one hour dialing in less mastering compression for the vinyl, mono:ed the sub and low bass and poof, done.
 
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Artists like Bruce Springsteen, Jack White, Pearl Jam and Metallica release live albums from literally every concert they play. The fact that Priest have Andy on board makes the entire technical process of working on this kind of release much easier for them. Even the Hellfest concert could have been released in a small limited edition on vinyl and CD; there would certainly have been buyers for it. They have tons of recordings from the 2018-2025 period and aren't doing anything with them. I consider this a missed opportunity.
 
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