The problem is IM musicians just don't care about fitting into any changes, and the management has nothing to do with their artistic directions. Steve mentioned once that artistic independence was the main condition of a management contract.
Iron Maiden's management: What went wrong?
- Thread starter Mosh
- Start date
Eddie's Uncle
Educated Fool
Exactly, they tried. Didnt work at all in my ears. For the very same reasons you also mention below.
Perosnal taste is of course always legit and if you enjoy it, who am I to debate. But I also have to say: if those exact albums were recorded by a newcomer act instead of Metallica, nobody would have noticed. Nobody! Reviews would have been like "just another thrash album, decent, but next please". These albums were noticed because of the Metallica logo, and sold because of the loyalty of the fans.
Probably true.
It fits indeed. Probably all three thoughts are correct. However, they all result in the same thing: he is not into it any more. Outgrown or different interests, the outcome is the same. It is pure painting by numbers. Creating a product for the market, carefully designed to please and to uphold an image. That's what I mean with garbage. It is all plastic.
Exactly.
I don't deny that.
Cant be much more trashy than that. I mean, they could have collaborated with some underground act, making a dream come true for them, pushing someone who really needs it. Instead they go for the queen of trash, which is already on top of the world...
Yeah, they truely are garbage. Definitely more garbage than Metallica. But they always were garbage, Metallica actually were brilliant once.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
I'm not quite understanding where these things are problems. Let the musicians do what they want to do.
Edington
Last Son of The Miracle
The Metallica/Gaga performance was trash, but through no fault of hers. She's a genuine fan of metal, it was probably a dream come true for her, why does it matter that she is already successful and popular?
If anything it was probably gonna give Metallica a push - not that they need it either - but the whole thing was so badly handled that I doubt it gained them many new fans and just left most watching it confused.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
I believe the goal was to help keep the band actively in the eye of the American public as they announced the North American WorldWired stadium dates the day after the Grammys performance with Gaga. The appearance may have been made to give them a little boost for the new venues as they hadn't toured stadiums as a solo headliner before. (Summer Sanitarium was like a mini-festival)
I still think Maiden wants to hop up to some stadium dates in North America for 2026, so I think the tour announcement will be tied into the documentary release.
You're probably right. The documentary, which will be screened in cinemas and distributed on social media, should impact the American market. Kate Bush was inducted into the RnRHoF, thanks to one song on Netflix. I think the Iron Maiden movie might be the key to wider audiences in NA.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
Motley Crue (don't throw your tomatoes at me), got a bounce from their Netflix movie to co-headline stadiums. They were never at that level before.
Sheriff_of_Huddersfield
Prowler
Another way to look at this is genre popularity.
Straightforward 4:4 time, chorus verse, bridge (maybe) format rock typically enjoys more popularity than prog rock does.
Metallica, while they have NWOBHM roots pioneered by bands like Maiden (who were really only 3 years ahead in debut album release), and display high technical musical competency, were always more rock than prog based.
Comparing Maiden and Metallica would be like comparing Rush to Led Zeppelin or Yes to U2.
Sorta.
The point is the proggier the band, the more devoted its core fan base tends to be but its mass appeal lags more accessible bands.
Straightforward 4:4 time, chorus verse, bridge (maybe) format rock typically enjoys more popularity than prog rock does.
Metallica, while they have NWOBHM roots pioneered by bands like Maiden (who were really only 3 years ahead in debut album release), and display high technical musical competency, were always more rock than prog based.
Comparing Maiden and Metallica would be like comparing Rush to Led Zeppelin or Yes to U2.
Sorta.
The point is the proggier the band, the more devoted its core fan base tends to be but its mass appeal lags more accessible bands.
Words of wisdom, but MC always were into American audience taste, a way more than Maiden.
I guess I'm on Team Proggie since Rush, Yes and Maiden are my three favorite bands.
Although to take your example further I also love Zeppelin and U2.
Sheriff_of_Huddersfield
Prowler
Oh yeah, I like all the bands I’ve mentioned as well but listen to Maiden, Rush, and Yes far more than the others.