TELL ME WHACHOOOO CAN HEAR, AN' THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU SEEBecause he enjoys the music he is playing and gets a bit carried away?
We know that Steve also does something similar singing whilst playing (thankfully we cannot hear him).
TELL ME WHACHOOOO CAN HEAR, AN' THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU SEEBecause he enjoys the music he is playing and gets a bit carried away?
We know that Steve also does something similar singing whilst playing (thankfully we cannot hear him).
He did. There was a recent interview with Adrian in which he mentioned that about the Dickinson songs when discussing the Powerslave material. Bruce can play the guitar competently enough to write songs like those.
Do you have a link please ? I would be really interested in reading this interview.
Neither Steve’s nor Bruce’s point is about business. And Steve takes his lyrics seriously, just not on such a direct level; it‘s more about the content than the direct narration for him I guess. As in church music, which is less dramatic than opera, less about a story, but more about the bigger message. I don‘t know if that makes any sense.Both approaches are fine: Bruce is talking art and Steve is talking business.
Song consists of 2 parts one being the words and the other being music. No-one is more important than the other and obviously music must serve the lyrics. When it does, you have timeless masterpieces like Rime or Hallowed. When it doesn't you have good songs that appeal to fans and bring a few more in but not major breakthrough. Nothing wrong with that, it’s ok to be respectable in your ecosystem.
Now Steve tells us melody is no.1 but I have't seen any instrumentals for almost 40 years. He says most people don't speak English but yet wherever Maiden goes to play the audience is familiar with English language.
And yes, I can understand the church approach with Latin. This did make sense business wise. The people really didn't understand Latin. Not the case with maiden /English. Not even remotely.
In 2021 English is a universal language more than any other language has ever been, so there is no parallel here. Steve is blessed to be native to the most universal language ever and he comes up with that? No I don't buy it.
The lyricist being artist should create the best out of what he has, no matter if his language is a few million speakers or a billion. When the lyricist doesn't do that is a lesser artist, which business -wise can be ok, but his art may not stand the test of time.
So what? The song is inseparable lyrics -music are tied together and work together and I'm sure once you throw out the notes, most of Steve's compositions aren't that strong either.
Again. The lyricist being an artist should do the best with what the lyricist has: his language. And a song being lyrics + music, you must give the highest importance to both in order to create fine art, not the one or the other. And yes the music must serve the lyrics in some way.
Now I’m not too familiar with Nirvana’s lyrics (they seem great as far as I can tell) and Nirvana didn’t have to release 17 albums. Their few songs sound ok lyrics + music together meaning sonically are ok, the signing flows; you don’t have Lightning Strike Twice type choruses impossible to pronounce.
It does, and I agree with you.Neither Steve’s nor Bruce’s point is about business. And Steve takes his lyrics seriously, just not on such a direct level; it‘s more about the content than the direct narration for him I guess. As in church music, which is less dramatic than opera, less about a story, but more about the bigger message. I don‘t know if that makes any sense.
I've ordered the last Classic Rock issue, so I guess I will get the answer. Anyway, I stand corrected on the main matter: Bruce being able to compose on his own.I am afraid it was one of those print only magazines (can’t remember which one of the new ones in the UK; they are not ad regular as Classic Rock or Metal Hammer). I should have bought a copy when I first saw it at WH Smith because when I went back to get one that issue was gone.
Steve is also on record saying that Bruce wrote Powerslave on his own, putting together three separate ideas
Whether Maiden‘s lyrics are good or bad is another question, I wasn‘t talking about that. But I quite like some of them, Steve‘s as well as Bruce‘s. Obviously they have to fit the music; I don‘t think Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium would fit — although why not? (-: ACTUALLY, as Beethoven‘s lyrics, Maiden‘s lyrics deal with transcendental stuff quite often.As for Beethoven's, who happens to be my favorite composer, we now know which influence had his very early biographers on the interpretation of his music. Those are mostly personal interpretations, with very little, or even nothing to support them. What counts is what he wrote on the manuscript partitions, in his letters, and the dedications he sometimes made (and sometimes later retired).
To me, wanting to submit the music to the words can have sense in a litugical context (praising god, for those who believe), or for a great poet who wants to deliver some kind of message. But do Bruce's lyrics belong to the same elevated category? He is a Metal singer and what shall remain (or not) is the song, as a whole, not some lyrics about mystic or I don't know what. I'm glad Maiden don't sing about screwing girls on the backseat of their limousines, but I think Bruce sometimes takes himself too seriously. As he is clever, he adds a little self-mockery note, but he can't foul us.
Most of all, I think he is a rather un-melodic vocal melodist: If Eternity's verses are un-melodic (as Forostar once answered me, it works with the lyrics, which I admit), Book of Thel is un-melodic, and there are plenty of examples where he just rushes words on a very indistinct and generic melody.
Neither Steve’s nor Bruce’s point is about business. And Steve takes his lyrics seriously, just not on such a direct level; it‘s more about the content than the direct narration for him I guess. As in church music, which is less dramatic than opera, less about a story, but more about the bigger message. I don‘t know if that makes any sense.
Bruce never did lyrics as bad as Steve on Different world, Wildest dreams, Age of Innocence, The man who would be king and so many others. To be honest I got no idea what Steve songs on the new album talk about apart from Senjutsu.
I agree that the words match the song melodies this time around, I just can't get any real story or meaning out of them.The Pankrement is a nice exception though, I find it beautifully written a clear step up for Steve in my opinion. Also Hell on Earth I like the lyrics, not as much as Pankrement but quite a lot.
Those 2 songs represent what I really search from a song, lyrics and music to bond beautifully together, content-wise and sonically.
I've ordered the last Classic Rock issue, so I guess I will get the answer. Anyway, I stand corrected on the main matter: Bruce being able to compose on his own.
I agree that the words match the song melodies this time around, I just can't get any real story or meaning out of them.
Then again he has not given us strong lyrics like he does for the amazing title track for quite some time now!
I mean, it has to be Dave who does the least, right?Alright here’s a challenge for you stat nerds based on some of the discussions on here.
Is there any information on which band members have done the most (or least) press for a particular album? I guess Bruce and Nicko are constants, but it varies with everyone else depending on the album. Also, any regional differences? For example, here in the states it feels like Nicko is always the one doing radio interviews.
Amazing. I see the forum has moved on from complaining about the band not doing enough press to complaining about how much press they are doing for the album.The lack of diversity in the promotional interviews is baffling. I can understand Adrian talking about the songs he wrote (great stuff), but with Bruce it is getting quite tedious. During this promotional round he is repeating the same stuff over and over again: “my Achilles tendon snapped”, “I got a metal hip!”, “only Steve and I had a chance to listen to the finished album”, “the video is great” (I have to agree with him on this), “Steve and I write lyrics in a very different way”, “I see lyrics as stories in my head that I then interpret”, “Churchill saved the world”, etc. What a bore!
Nicko is probably even worse though. It is always the best album they’ve ever done and this would be adorned with some crass jokes and anecdotes from a long time ago.
I’d love to hear from the other band members. I find Steve’s silence particularly surprising. It is as if he did not give a shit about promoting the latest album of his band!
Either way, if the other band members were to be interviewed, I can foresee Steve saying that he has “so many different ideas that it is ridiculous” (even though they all end up following similar patterns and self-plagiarism is rife) and Jan telling us that “a band has to remain creative and record new music” (yet they have waited 6 years to release a new studio album). And Dave? Well, he’ll probably just smile.
The journalists interviewing them might be partially responsible, as I feel they do not ask them any particularly challenging questions. Call me a cynic, but I guess the amount of money spent by Parlophone/Warner advertising the album might have something to do with it.
I read an interview with Blaze not too long ago where he said that he and Dave Murray were enlisted to do the majority of the promo tour for X Factor. So, it probably varies by album and era. He probably also did a lot of press during the guitar magazine boom in the mid 80s.I mean, it has to be Dave who does the least, right?
Isn‘t it “The Pakrement”?The Pankrement is
It’s both. The guy said “The Pankrement” the first time and “The Pakrement” multiple times after that.Isn‘t it “The Pakrement”?