I'm Starting from Powerslave

@Mysterio, I am now curious, after this conversation, which albums you picked up and what you thought about them.

Yeah Mysterio, I'm curious about this too. Now that you've given the bees nest a sufficient shake, what is your verdict?
 
Deano said:
Canadian Zingers, gotta love em!

I like chocolate zingers.  Yummy.

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Deano said:
It was sarcasm and I don't speak fluent smiley. Sorry. Really, it was commentary on other public commentary that that is where the idea for the song came from.

I have always loved Back in the Village; that song gets slammed a lot but it's one of my favorites on Powerslave. I now openly submit to any beatings people want to give me for this. My opinion won't change.  :)

Yeah, Powerslave is my favourite album, and I think (with the exception of FOTB) all the songs are great.  and BINTV has some sick riffs!  And I love the pinch harmonic on the opening one!
 
Hissy_Fit said:
Good grief. ESPECIALLY Rime of the Ancient Mariner. It's so corny. The worst track on the album. It sounded like something that should have been on SSOSS. But luckily not.

Powerslave, in my opinion, was not their best work. But then again, it's not their worst. I think I hand that title over to Killers.

Well i agree Killers is easily their worst album, but Powerslave? COME ON!!! It's ficking awesome!
ROTAM is a legendary track, how many other bands have the balls to record a 13+ minute track, not to mention play it live? It's got awesome dual riffs, cool lyrics and subject matter, and the slow part in the middle is just spine-tingling!  It definately belongs on Powerslave, not SSOASS
 
Really? muahahaha ... Naw, it's too easy

I wouldn't have asked if I couldn't take it.  ;)

how many other bands have the balls to record a 13+ minute track, not to mention play it live?

Helloween. Good point though. Damnit, I love Killers too, beat me for that if you want as well.  :)
 
seely said:
how many other bands have the balls to record a 13+ minute track, not to mention play it live?

More than you'd think. Although I suppose it was less heard of back in '84, at least in the heavy metal world.
 
Deano said:
Helloween.
That's fucking right! and um... Dream Theater, Symphony X, Mago de Oz, several Classical composers...
Damnit, I love Killers too, beat me for that if you want as well.  :)

I can't beat you for something I completely agree with :) Killers is an AWESOME album. "Killers! Behind you!" fing awesome.
 
I can't beat you for something I completely agree with  Killers is an AWESOME album. "Killers! Behind you!" fing awesome.

This post should really be in the "Whatever it is, I'm against it" thread but I'm too lazy today:

Onhell fricking loves the album Killers!
 
Yup :D the first two albums are actually really good. I like Paul and the punkish influence, but the leap from Iron Maiden to Killers is HUGE.
 
I'm in total agreement, I love both albums but the progression to Killers really was a good indication of things to come; minus Paul of course.  :(

So to keep things relevant; Mysterio, the recommendation is official; for good, solid Iron Maiden groundwork, check out these albums as well. Clive Burr, the drummer on these albums + Number of the Beast, in my opinion also does better work than Nicko McBrain.
 
seely said:
ROTAM is a legendary track, how many other bands have the balls to record a 13+ minute track, not to mention play it live?

My favourite plus 10-minute song: Dante's Inferno by Iced Earth.

Judas screaming here in agony
The traitor's freeze for all eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Pink Floyd has bunch of awesome long songs too.  Like Dogs, Echoes, etc.

Rush's epics are always a treat as well.  Hemispheres and 2112 are both amazing.
 
I would disagree with the comment about Clive.  I've always found Burr to be inferior drummer to Nicko, and I'm not usually one to care about technicality.  I just think that Clive hides his lesser skill under fast but simple drumpatterns, while Nicko does much more complex stuff.  Nicko also adds his own touches to the songs (also Clive-era) and he's a more recognisable drummer.  For example, on the studio version vs. LAD version, compare the point just before 3:10, before Bruce starts singing "As the guards march me out to the courtyard..."  Nice extra by Nicko that isn't done by Clive.  Clive is bidedal, but Nicko is a friggin' octopus.  And don't make me mention his double-bass sounding single bass.

I'll admit though that I know absolutely nothing about drumming or music in general, so sorry if this sounds horribly untechnical or otherwise incomprehensible. :)

Oh, and I've personally never liked Killers.  It has some fantastic songs (Killers, Wrathchild, Murders in the Rue Morgue) but the rest seem pretty mediocre to me.  But it could be I've never given the album enough of a chance, as I do like the first album.

As for good +10 minute songs from other bands, Iced Earth and Helloween spring to mind.  Iced Earth has Dante's Inferno and the excellent Gettysburg trilogy (which I sometimes consider to be one song).  Helloween has King for a 1000 Years, Halloween, Keeper of the Seven Keys, etc.  All good songs.  Compared to this, Maiden has surprisingly few long songs.  Only Sign of the Cross and Rime are over 10 minutes in the studio (Paschendale live is longer because of the intro).  Near 10 minutes are a lot of songs, though: The Legacy, For the Greater Good of God, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, The Angel and the Gambler, Dream of Mirrors...  Old Metallica has some 9-minute ones too, mainly from their fourth album: ...And Justice for All, To Live is to Die, and Call of Ktulu.
Maiden might have been one of the first metal bands to make really longs songs, but they aren't the only ones :)
 
Speaking of 'Tallica, it is rumored their new album is "progressive" with quite a few "long" songs on them.
 
Forostar said:
@Invader: Don't forget Gamma Ray, with "Heading For Tomorrow" from the first album. :)

Those were only songs I have.  I don't have Gamma Ray's first album, I'm afraid.
 
Alright, since you were getting into Gamma Ray, then consider the track as a recommendation ;) Perhaps not so strong as the Helloween tracks, but still interesting enough to hear.
 
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