Black Thunder
Ancient Mariner
Gosheto said:
Rolling Stone is a complete BS.
How good are Iron Maiden (individually)?
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Rolling Stone is a complete BS.
Jeffmetal
Ancient Mariner
I'd love to see his opinion on Maiden as he opened for Maiden on SIT tour. I have a mag in which he says Metallica is so shit that they can't even tune their guitars correctly, let alone play with an orchestra (it was at the time or after S&M); he says that Steve Morse has a great picking and should play banjo, Satriani is just one more pentatonic user and also, he says that Symptom Of The Universe riff is THE definitive sound.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Maybe something like this:Jeffmetal said:
*Plays live version of Hallowed Be Thy Name*
"I like the song itself and the mood it sets. I think the singing is very good but the bass is annoying. It's too up front and he's always playing that annoying galloping that's been overdone. The drums are okay. They are tasteful but nothing spectacular: It's like someone said "play simple stuff and try to emulate the rest of the instruments" and I don't like that.
"What did you think of the guitars?"
"Bland. The legato guy pretends he's Ritchie Blackmore meets Buddy Guy. It's simple pentatonic runs although smooth, doesn't do it for me. It hasn't got the 'it' factor. The other guitarist however... He's so sloppy! It's like they gave a guitar to an armless man and said 'make as much noise as possible'. The selection of notes is awful, it even makes Kirk Hammet look good. He doesn't even hit the string! I would've preferred their third guitarist playing instead of the sloppy excuse for string bender that plays on the original version. Although he's boring and plays run of the mill stuff at least he can play somewhat good. I liked the singing though.
Maybe the riffing would be better if it was done in harmonic minor instead of natural minor!"
Suicidehummer
Trooper
Yngwie is so full of himself and in reality he couldn't write a song to save his life. Same with Satriani and all those tasteless shredders. Adrian and Dave blow away those braindead morons any day and we all know it.
Cap Maronis
Trooper
Suicidehummer said:
I'll definitely agree about Yngwie, but quite a few shredders can write decent songs. Are they Maiden level? Well, generally no, but I'm pretty sure Satch has a few good cuts in his time. And then there's guys like Paul Gilbert, and you can't tell me that Racer X had nothing of quality.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Wow, you've obviously never listened to Satch. Satch is not a tasteless shredder. I wouldn't even refer to him as a shredder at all. He's a highly advanced rock player, not shredder. Satch is an excellent, excellent composer and avid user of the pitch axis theory. To call him a tasteless shredder who couldn't write a song to save his life is equivalent to saying Iron Maiden can't do anything but play gallopping riffs in E and go from C to D to E in every song.Suicidehummer said:
Adrian being a huge fan of satch, and influenced by him would probably not go easy on you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yc8xyL0Xxo Watch that and say that he can't write a song or that he's tasteless. And that tapping in the solo is very very tasteful and very thought through. Listen to the dynamics!
Suicidehummer
Trooper
Yax said:Wow, you've obviously never listened to Satch. Satch is not a tasteless shredder. I wouldn't even refer to him as a shredder at all. He's a highly advanced rock player, not shredder. Satch is an excellent, excellent composer and avid user of the pitch axis theory. To call him a tasteless shredder who couldn't write a song to save his life is equivalent to saying Iron Maiden can't do anything but play gallopping riffs in E and go from C to D to E in every song.
Adrian being a huge fan of satch, and influenced by him would probably not go easy on you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yc8xyL0Xxo Watch that and say that he can't write a song or that he's tasteless. And that tapping in the solo is very very tasteful and very thought through.
Fair enough, I don't listen to him, I just always grouped him in there because he has that look and plays Ibanezes.
Cap Maronis
Trooper
Satch was always rock and roll enough to make it work.
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Yngwie is an asshole. Satch is good. Go download "surfing with the alien".
About McBrain not being on top with other "progressive" drummers..i call major bullshit on that one.
That guy has had professional carreer of 35 years. Do you really thing that he really plays 4/4 all the time?
Each time when Maiden demanded another time code, he delivers it superbly, with all his bits and pieces that make his usual playing exciting.
That's about the only guy that can make me shit my pants while playing 4/4.
About McBrain not being on top with other "progressive" drummers..i call major bullshit on that one.
That guy has had professional carreer of 35 years. Do you really thing that he really plays 4/4 all the time?
Each time when Maiden demanded another time code, he delivers it superbly, with all his bits and pieces that make his usual playing exciting.
That's about the only guy that can make me shit my pants while playing 4/4.
Suicidehummer
Trooper
Nothing wrong with 4/4 anyway. Phil Rudd is my favorite drummer and most people would say he sucks. I think you have to be able to appreciate subtlety and style before technicality.
Cap Maronis
Trooper
I think there are better drummers than Nicko, but Nicko is by no means a slouch. I greatly appreciate anyone who isn't just a machine and actually feels the music the way Nick obviously does.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
I think Dave Murray is one of the very best live performers (from all musicians I can think of), thus is in my opinion very high on guitar ranks.
Steve Harris I also rank very high, surely in his genre. Very powerful, tight and fast playing. And he created or at least popularized the galloping bass. He surely has formed his own sound and style (though he knew damn well where to take his influences from), which any great musician possesses.
Other great bassists with power and feel for melody I appreciate in rock/metal:
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Markus Großkopf (Helloween)
The Helloween bassist is probably less known on this forum than 'Arry and Geddy (Is water wet? Yes it is), but his playing style has been known to include very prominent basslines. Check out his stuff, it's really original and well executed.
Steve Harris I also rank very high, surely in his genre. Very powerful, tight and fast playing. And he created or at least popularized the galloping bass. He surely has formed his own sound and style (though he knew damn well where to take his influences from), which any great musician possesses.
Other great bassists with power and feel for melody I appreciate in rock/metal:
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Markus Großkopf (Helloween)
The Helloween bassist is probably less known on this forum than 'Arry and Geddy (Is water wet? Yes it is), but his playing style has been known to include very prominent basslines. Check out his stuff, it's really original and well executed.
Suicidehummer
Trooper
Am I the only one who has trouble taking a band called Helloween seriously?
Cap Maronis
Trooper
Suicidehummer said:
Well at least it's not a band named for a medieval torture device, right?
Helloween is goofy and everything, but I think you have to take a little bit of that no matter what if you're going to be a heavy metal fan.