GREATEST METAL ALBUM CUP - Winner: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son!

MindRuler said:
Strange you don´t add Suite Sister Mary, the highlight of Side A....
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KidInTheDark666 said:
Or Spreading the Disease, my favorite QR song.
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Midnight said:
Don't forget The Needle Lies and Anarchy-X.
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So basically the whole album! If I had to choose lesser songs I think that “Speak”, “The Mission”, and “Breaking the Silence” are a bit weaker, but work well when listening through the album. It’s a truly awesome concept record.
 
Diesel 11 said:
For the second time ever I am voting for Maiden against a non Maiden album. ...And Justice for All is very overrated, with a lot of bloat and terrible production (although the great stuff is among their best, the worst weighs it down). AMOLAD deserves to progress more IMO. Since Metallica is a titan I don’t feel bad voting for Maiden here.

Operation: Mindcrime is another one of those classic albums that deserves its legacy status. Is the story cheesy? Yeah. Do they make it work in ways you couldn’t have dreamed were possible and is every song great? YEAH. If Priest wins this match I will be very disappointed. “Eyes of a Stranger” is the best song out of any of these eight albums. Just playing it by itself takes my breath away, and in the segue of the whole album? That x 1000.

Voting Ride the Lightning here though, a truly great Metallica album up against a truly great Maiden album. Tough choice but I’ll stick to my guns, unlike in the first matchup.

Fuck. Among the Living is boring as hell. I can listen to certain songs on their own but as a full album is just a slog of bop bop thrash thrash that I don’t care for. And SiT is a great (but lesser) follow up to Powerslave, but I don’t wanna see Powerslave go out to it. Hence I shall vore Anthrax, but ideally both of these albums would head out.
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How the f*** do we get to the same votes but I still can't like the post of yours with clear conscience? How do you do it? :D

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Forostar said:
O no. An overlong snoozefest. Or put it in a more respectable manner: there is not enough happening in this song with such length.
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But Foro! The passion! The performance! It’s Queensrÿche erupting into true theater and Geoff plays off of Pamela Moore’s Mary so well. It’s the centerpiece of the record for a reason — Nikki is supposed to kill Mary but falls in love with her instead; Mary loves Nikki but has trouble dealing with the guilt she feels for her sexual promiscuity... okay I know it’s a dumb concept but they play it for ALL that it’s worth and it’s a truly awesome song, the one the whole concept builds to and then must swing off of. All the songs that follow hit hard because of this one. It’s a performance and an incredible one at that.
 
Couldn´t agree more with @Diesel 11 on this one.
It´s almost a mini metal musical.
The building-up of Suite Sister Mary is incredible. From that falling rain, the haunting choir, Tate,...
and then later on the bursting out into that heavy riff! One of their very best for sure.
 
Good to see some passionate posts here. But no. That song is not my cup of tea. Maybe if it was shorter and did not have the cacaphony.

Eyes of a Stranger, now we're talking. A song 10 times as good as the album.
 
A mini musical. Exactly. The musical is my least favourite film genre. I might go to a musical if someone else pays me the ticket and more.
 
Forostar said:
Eyes of a Stranger, now we're talking. A song 10 times as good as the album.
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“Eyes” is definitely the best song on that album. Not just that but also one of the greatest the entire genre of metal has ever come up with. Less going on than in “Suite” but the whole album has built up to that one final moment and as soon as the riff kicks in fucking chills hit you instantly. Almost hard to keep from crying as Tate gives the best performance of his life and the rest of the band aren’t far behind. This incarnation of Queensrÿche was something special man.
 
Forostar said:
A mini musical. Exactly. The musical is my least favourite film genre. I might go to a musical if someone else pays me the ticket and more.
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I was gonna respond with a ‘sad’ face but actually I’m not too big on film musicals myself lol. (There are exceptions of course.) But I do love when pop / rock / metal music takes inspirations from theater and doesn’t mind going over-the-top and throwing on the excess just for the hell of it. A powerful song like that offers more scope to me than a short one with a cool riff or a catchy chorus. It’s why I adore Steinman’s and Holopainen’s songwriting so much, or even GNR’s “Estranged” — and actually Maiden’s big stuff too. If you can pull off a 10+ minute song then you’ve written something that has the potential to eclipse a lot of others to me.

“If you don’t go over the top, how can you see the other side?” —Jim Steinman
 
Diesel 11 said:
“Eyes” is definitely the best song on that album. Not just that but also one of the greatest the entire genre of metal has ever come up with. Less going on than in “Suite” but the whole album has built up to that one final moment and as soon as the riff kicks in fucking chills hit you instantly. Almost hard to keep from crying as Tate gives the best performance of his life and the rest of the band aren’t far behind. This incarnation of Queensrÿche was something special man.
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I'd take that EOAStranger solo section, hell even the outro solo section, over the whole rest of the album.
"I Don't Believe in Love" and "Breaking the Silence" are also very fine works.
 
#poststhatmakeTullicafansfliptheirshitandruptureavessel

Thinking about it, I'd say that AJFA, Ride and ReLoad are the only Metallica albums than are able to hold my attention all the way through and don't lull me to sleep or force me to switch the CD halfway through.


(and as for the bass - s***, don't pretend as if any of you could hear any bass on any given 80's thrash album :ninja:)
 
...And Justice For All isn’t quite on the same level as the two albums that preceded it, but it’s got some amazing tracks like “Blackened”, “One”, and “Dyers Eve”, and everything else on here is still pretty strong, if a little overlong and tedious at times. Unfortunately for them, they’re up against a modern classic from the home team that’s half excellent to superb, and half good to great. And an album that’s 1/2 amazing, 1/2 strong beats an album that’s 1/3 amazing, 2/3 strong. Sorry, Dr. KarljidInTheDarkie’s FTBlingipodoftheflasharus, but The Fishidentyn DrJ’s KaloosrfInThePotunianamaticman’s nominee takes this one. Winner: Iron Maiden

Operation: Mindcrime is arguably the ultimate metal concept album, and one of the main contenders that would be favored to go all the way if this weren’t an Iron Maiden forum. The songwriting and performances on here are outstanding, and the overarching story is interesting and a bit mysterious. Every song on here slays (except for maybe “My Empty Room”), and tracks like “I Don’t Believe In Love” and “Eyes Of A Stranger” are just gobsmackingly great. No wonder I nominated it. A middling Judas Priest album doesn’t stand a chance in this match-up. Sorry, @Cornfed Hick, but Diessider FTBeddie’s Mosrfaxpotovis The Jerkindrollin’s choice just delivered your album’s electric requiem. Winner: Queensrÿche

Ride The Lightning is probably Metallica’s second best album. The songwriting and guitar work are impeccable, and the only major weakness is in Hetfield’s still-developing vocals, which veer off-key in places. “Fight Fire With Fire” and “Escape” aren’t quite on the same level as the other songs, but they’re still really strong, and the rest of the album is just one classic after another. Another one that I nominated for good reason. It’s up against the second-best reunion-era Maiden album, which is a pretty strong offering, but has a lot of merely good songs on it, while Ride The Lightning is all killer, no filler. Sorry, ShmooseCollikimatis The Dissisrfcon, but Dr. Pertoyaxie’s Whootcannonfed Flickjeriananightman’s nominee just left you in a country churchyard, laid head to the mast. Winner: Metallica

Anthrax’s punky, lo-fi thrash sound has never really appealed to me. Their songwriting isn’t very good and the singer fails to impress, so they don’t really hold my interest, and that’s no different with this album. I suppose “A.D.I. / Horror Of It All” was pretty decent, but the rest was utterly forgettable to me. And it’s up against Somewhere In Time, FFS, so I think the outcome is pretty clear. Sorry, @Whooten, but SrfcollikipodInTheDarkalatajantyn Dr DJFTB’s The Flissinightmaticman’s choice leaves yours among the dead. Winner: Iron Maiden
 
The Dissident said:
A Matter Of Life And Death is my 2nd favourite Maiden album, whereas ...And Justice For All, does very little for me.
Operation: Mindcrime is a masterpiece and while Hell Bent For Leather has some great tracks, it doesn't live up to the monster of a concept album it is facing.
Ride The Lightning I think is a more consistent album than The Book Of Souls.
Somewhere In Time is my favourite Maiden album, while I don't listen to Anthrax
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Voting the same
 
Forostar said:
A mini musical. Exactly. The musical is my least favourite film genre. I might go to a musical if someone else pays me the ticket and more.
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Diesel 11 said:
I was gonna respond with a ‘sad’ face but actually I’m not too big on film musicals myself lol. (There are exceptions of course.) But I do love when pop / rock / metal music takes inspirations from theater and doesn’t mind going over-the-top and throwing on the excess just for the hell of it. A powerful song like that offers more scope to me than a short one with a cool riff or a catchy chorus. It’s why I adore Steinman’s and Holopainen’s songwriting so much, or even GNR’s “Estranged” — and actually Maiden’s big stuff too. If you can pull off a 10+ minute song then you’ve written something that has the potential to eclipse a lot of others to me.

“If you don’t go over the top, how can you see the other side?” —Jim Steinman
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Just to be clear, as someone who's crazy for opera, operetta, musicals (stage and film) etc. ... I like both, but I don't think these two have a lot in common - that is, I don't like both because of their similarities. I wouldn't use one as an excuse/reason for (dis)liking the other. Just my 0,02, though.


EDIT: for me, it's really the chorus "Mary, my lady of pain // Always alone // Blind you search for the truth... etc" - how it's used and returned to. Yup, I'm that shallow.
 
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