GREATEST METAL ALBUM CUP - Winner: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son!

Aight Mr Yackety Sax Catarax Moose Trax By Fax, I wasn’t gonna go there, but now you’ve got it comin’!

DotF. It's a solid album
Ah, but Dirt is a great album!
but with incredibly weird and machine soundalike drum production.
And Dirt was great and well-assembled, crunchy production that allows the music to flow really nicely. Much better on that front!
The songs range from amazing, to a couple of good songs and the occassional oddness of the title track.
Not every song on Dirt is a masterpiece, but all of them are good. The greatest of them eclipse DOTF’s best and none are nearly so bad as “Heavy Duty / Defenders of the Filler”.

Thus I urge you to recheck your vote because you have made a grievous mistake and I should hate to see you mess up on such a level!
 
Well, this round wasn't terribly close, was it? I'm posting the summary about 20 minutes before it closes, but the closest match is 10 votes, doesn't seem like a swing will occur.

Judas Priest throws dirt into the grave after burying Alice in Chains, who are done in the GMAC.
Megadave smashes Pantera in a thrash-off. They're also eliminated.
Black Sabbath wins a strong victory over Helloween to finish the Germans off in the tournament.
Judas Priest takes down Scorpions, who still have Blackout in the mix.

Round of 32 Matchups Set:
Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith vs. Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality vs. Judas Priest - British Steel
 
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Judas Priest - Stained Class (1978)

How it got here

List entries: Rolling Stone 43, Metal Rules 39, Metalstorm 86, DigitalDreamDoor 32
Maidenfans Nominators: @Cornfed Hick, @LooseCannon, @Perun
League 1 - Match 9vs.
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Black Sabbath - Mob Rules (1981)

How it got here

List entries: Metal Rules 81, Metalstorm 90
Maidenfans Nominators: @Cornfed Hick, @mckindog
Previous Rounds:
League 3: Defeated Be’Lakor - Stone’s Reach 28-4.
League 2: Defeated Kreator - Pleasure to Kill 21-8.
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Opeth - Blackwater Park (2001)

How it got here

List entries: Rolling Stone 55, Loudwire 15, DigitalDreamDoor 86, Metal Kingdom 8
Maidenfans Nominators: @FTB, @Mosh, @MrKnickerbocker, @Saapanael, @Shmoolikipod, @The Flash
League 1 - Match 10vs.
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In Flames - The Jester Race (1996)

How it got here

List entries: Metal Rules 99, DigitalDreamDoor 99
Maidenfans Nominators: @Black Wizard, @FTB
Previous Rounds:
League 3: Defeated Megadeth - United Abominations 16-15.
League 2: Defeated Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness 15-10.
 
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Rainbow - Rising (1976)

How it got here

List entries: Rolling Stone 48, Loudwire 20, Metalstorm 6, DigitalDreamDoor 17
Maidenfans Nominators: @Cornfed Hick, @Midnight, @MrKnickerbocker, @Niall Kielt, @Poto, @Shmoolikipod, @srfc, @The Dissident, @Yax
League 1 - Match 11vs.
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Alter Bridge - Blackbird (2007)

How it got here

List entries: n/a
Maidenfans Nominators: @Ariana, @The Dissident
Previous Rounds:
League 6: Defeated Bolt Thrower - Those Once Loyal 15-12.
League 5: Defeated Voivod - Dimensions Hatröss 15-12.
League 4: Defeated Entombed - Wolverine Blues 17-9.
League 3: Defeated Mötley Crüe - Too Fast For Love 20-9.
League 2: Defeated System of a Down - Toxicity 16-13.
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Mercyful Fate - Don’t Break the Oath (1984)

How it got here

List entries: Loudwire 38, Metal Rules 68, Metalstorm 23, DigitalDreamDoor 27
Maidenfans Nominators: @Diesel 11
League 1 - Match 12vs.
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Judas Priest - Sin After Sin (1977)

How it got here

List entries: n/a
Maidenfans Nominators: @Forostar, @mckindog, @Saapanael
Previous Rounds:
League 6: Defeated Atlantean Kodex - The White Goddess 22-5.
League 5: Defeated Van Halen - Van Halen 20-7.
League 4: Defeated Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral 23-3.
League 3: Defeated Black Sabbath - Sabotage 21-10.
League 2: Defeated Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman 25-4.
 
Aight Mr Yackety Sax Catarax Moose Trax By Fax, I wasn’t gonna go there, but now you’ve got it comin’!


Ah, but Dirt is a great album!
Nah, if it was as great or better it just might have won. :D
But thanks for my new signature. That was a good one.
And Dirt was great and well-assembled, crunchy production that allows the music to flow really nicely. Much better on that front!
The production is great. It can't salvage the vocals though.
Not every song on Dirt is a masterpiece, but all of them are good. The greatest of them eclipse DOTF’s best and none are nearly so bad as “Heavy Duty / Defenders of the Filler”.
Wrong. Well, you are kind of right about the last part. I don't view them as as standalone songs though, which helps in that regard.
Thus I urge you to recheck your vote because you have made a grievous mistake and I should hate to see you mess up on such a level!
I thank you for your misplaced consideration. I shall now go and listen to the winner of this round instead of the lesser good "Dirt". :p
 
Judas Priest - I don't hold Stained Class in the high regard a lot do, don't get me wrong it's good, great actually, but it's more an album of good deep cuts/hidden gems than classics. Beyond the Realms of Death is one of, if not the, best Priest songs but that's about it. I don't think Exciter is that great, the vocal track is a bit cringe. The title track is great but the Halford live version is better, as the album version is let down by the almost no gain guitar sound. The rest are, as I said, really good hidden gems, except for Heroes End. What possessed them to not have Beyond the Realms of Death close the album?

Black Sabbath - The first side are all absolute classics except E5150 which is just as shit as FX so I can't let Iommi away with that one as it's a repeat offence. The second side are all great deep cuts, and as a whole it's an equally strong album to Heaven and Hell which gets all the plaudits.

Black Sabbath with the win, and the better sample track too!

Opeth - 1st Riff sounds like Taking the Queen, this is the sort of stuff they do that I could get on board with

In Flames - This is decent stuff, but I'd enjoy it a lot more without a lot of the gimmicks i.e. vocals, too much double bass, jar of bees guitar sound. I realise that the gimmicks are what make them them, but what you gonna do?

On the evidence of these tracks, Opeth with the win, but I suspect if I gave a listen to all of both albums there might be more I dislike on Opeth, but I don't have the inclination to do that based on the levels of interest piqued by these songs. I would rather have the opportunity to give my vote to Stained Class than either of these, but that's the luck of the draw.

Rainbow - The only flaw on this album is the words "do you close your eyes when you're making love", everything else is perfect. Cozy fuckin' Powell for jaysus sake! Stargazer! C'mon! Best album from either Ritchie or Dio.

Alter Bridge - This is pretty good stuff, not really my cup of tea to rush out and buy the album tomorrow, but if I ever go to a festival again and they are on the bill I won't be at the bar when they are on. This album has had a strong run and out of the good few albums of their's that's been in the game this one sounds way better than the rest of them, with over production being a weak point of their's, but this one doesn't have that problem. Sample track is a very good song.

Rainbow with the win

Mercyful Fate - I think this is a drop down from Melissa, the guitar sound is not great and the songs aren't on the same level of memorability. Saying that A Dangerous Meeting is probably equally good as anything on Melissa, and Desecration of Souls is pretty great too. I don't dislike the album, far from it, but I'd have Melissa as the standard bearer for Mercyful Fate.

Judas Priest - One of the very best Priest albums, with no weaknesses and a number of classics (Sinner, Diamonds and Rust, Dissident Aggressor) with the rest being all strong deep cuts, with Let Us Prey/ Call for the Priest being a particular favourite of mine.

Judas Priest with the win
 
First match is the toughest, so I'll return to it in a minute...

Opeth's Blackwater Park is the absolute peak of melodic death metal and also a perfectly produced album. No offense to In Flames, but they are severely outclassed.

Rainbow Rising is one of the greatest albums of all time. It's probably the single best album Ritchie Blackmore ever did and it's either #1 or #2 for Dio, as well. Alter Bridge do not stand a chance here and they do not deserve that chance.

Priest's Sin After Sin is pretty awesome from top to bottom. It might not be my absolute favorite by them, but it surely beats the hell out of anything that King Mickey has ever been a part of.

Now, back to Match One:

Stained Class and Mob Rules are both very good, but very imperfect albums from their respective bands. Let's take this track by track, cause I think that's only fair:

  1. Both albums start the same way: an upbeat rocker. Exciter is fun, upbeat and has some more of the earliest running double bass drums in the genre. Turn Up The Night follows the same idea but gets bonus points cause Dio. Neither of these are true classics, but Turn Up The Night is catchier by far.
  2. Both albums move into a groovier, riffier song for track 2. White Heat, Red Hot...is fine. It's, once again, fun, but just another Priest track. Yeah, it's got a cool riff, but it simply cannot compete with the thicker, heavier, groovier riff of Voodoo. This is a classic Sabbath track vs. just another Priest song.
  3. Sign of the Southern Cross. This is not a fair fight.
  4. Stained Class has cool music and pretty grating Halford vocals with some super sus layering. Chorus is good though. No contest here either as E5150 is not a song.
  5. Invader is a forgettable filler song. It's fine. I honestly don't remember it at all when the album is over. The Mob Rules slays.
  6. Oddly enough...Saints In Hell and Country Girl start in a virtual identical tonality and go to radically different places. The former sways more epic and screamy, the latter is mainly a stompy romp. I actually prefer Country Girl (again, Dio bias), but I can admit that Saints In Hell is probably the better track.
  7. I think both of these songs are pretty filler. Neither is super memorable, neither is great. I really, truly dislike the chorus of Savage though. Slipping Away gets a pity vote.
  8. Well shit. The penultimate songs on both of these albums are equally epic and incredible. Beyond The Realms of Death has better guitar solos by far, some super epic wails and emotional depth. Falling Off the Edge of The World lulls you in and then hits like a fucking sledgehammer that turns into a racecar, though...I'm sure I'll get shit from the Halford stans for this one, but Falling Off the Edge of the World wins literally just because of Dio. Otherwise, they are equally awesome.
  9. Heroes End gets some points for being ripped off by Armored Saint at some point, but otherwise this song doesn't really do much for me. Again, something about Halford's voice on this album sounds bad to me. I know it's the production, but ugh, it's so grating. Over and Over is a pretty standard Sabbath slice of doom that is (d'uh) elevated by Dio's performance. Not my favorite, but more enjoyable than Heroes End.
That's 7 - 2 in favor of Black Sabbath, so, it's a win for The Mob Rules here.
 
Exciter is fun, upbeat and has some more of the earliest running double bass drums in the genre. Turn Up The Night follows the same idea but gets bonus points cause Dio. Neither of these are true classics, but Turn Up The Night is catchier by far.
Exciter not a true classic? :nonono:
That's 7 - 2 in favor of Black Sabbath, so, it's a win for The Mob Rules here.
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Nah, if it was as great or better it just might have won. :D
But thanks for my new signature. That was a good one.

The production is great. It can't salvage the vocals though.

Wrong. Well, you are kind of right about the last part. I don't view them as as standalone songs though, which helps in that regard.

I thank you for your misplaced consideration. I shall now go and listen to the winner of this round instead of the lesser good "Dirt". :p
Couldn't tell if I should 'love' this post for using mine as your signature, or 'hate' it because [you're wrong] so I just did an old-fashioned 'like'. Please accept my animosity and my admiration.

Judas Priest throws dirt into the grave after burying Alice in Chains, who are done in the GMAC.
Damn man, you guys didn't have to kill Layne a second time.

Priest's Sin After Sin is pretty awesome from top to bottom. It might not be my absolute favorite by them, but it surely beats the hell out of anything that King Mickey has ever been a part of.
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Gonna go with my gut and vote Stained Class, but it could honestly go either way.

I mean, come the fuck on. The Jester Race is good and all, but Blackwater Park's title track is the greatest thing in all eight of these albums. It transcends death metal. It's probably the greatest death metal song ever written. So many shades over those twelve minutes, and I swear to god the vocals are a HUGE part of why it's so good. If you had Bruce Dickinson singing it you wouldn't get the darkness and the complexity Opeth are trying to bring across. They throw in heavy-as-fuck riffs, and then complement them with acoustic passages that allow the listener to gain more than you'd expect. And like, the lyrics are incredible too. It's got one of the best endings I can think of to any song:
"We have all lost it now
Catching the flakes of dismay
Born the travesty of man
Regular pulse midst pandemonium
You're plucked to the mass
Parched with thirst for the wicked
Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark
The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park..."

Chills man. This song alone would be enough to secure the album's victory, but every other song on here is almost of the same quality as well. Seriously, easy vote.

I don't think that Rising is quite the masterpiece a lot of people claim. "Run With the Wolf" and "Starstruck" are okay-bordering-on-boring. "Do You Close Your Eyes" is interesting but not really necessary, and while I really do like "A Light in the Black", it seems like a gigantic step down from its predecessor when listening to the album in full. Luckily, the sheer majesty of "Tarot Woman" - everything about it is cool as hell, bar the verses, which seem a bit stock, but I can look over it since the rest is great - and the absolutely monumental "Stargazer" - truly one of the greatest, the drum intro is so cool, the solo section rises to the top of the world, the vocals, the story, it's a fucking amazing song - make up for anything their peers lack. Sorry to Alter Bridge, but another easy choice.

Sin After Sin is boring. Don't Break the Oath is one of those classic metal records that deserves its high standings in the community's estimations. And it's not even for King Diamond - I know, he's a love him or hate him kind of vocalist, and I'm in the first camp although I don't like him as much as I once did. That's neither here nor there. Don't Break the Oath is one of the greatest guitar albums ever. Seriously. Michael Denner and Hank Shermann are one of my favorite guitar duos ever. In fact I would go so far as to say that just on the back of THIS record, they rank behind only Murray / Smith of Iron Maiden. That's right, I would take them over Tipton / Downing any day of the week (even if Painkiller does come close). The way they play off each other is astounding. The sound of the guitars is just so warm and cozy while also hellishly infernal at the same time. It's so fucking good. The riffs are iconic. The solos are memorable. And throwing King Diamond on top with his ghostly wails just makes it all come together.

It's an album that opens up with a warning not to mess with demons and then says, "Fuck it! Hail Satan!" through all the others. The lyrics are Satanic to the extent that they become comical, and yet the band plays it so straight that you can't help but smile as they profess their love for Hell and at the same time, can also feel the rebeliousness you had when you first heard it and realized that if your parents knew what you were listening to they'd have a stroke. In a sense then it's almost a childish record, but truly in the best of ways. An album that tricks you into thinking that it takes itself seriously at first, but then you understand that it's really just a joke and you end up liking it even more because of that. Not many albums manage to straddle the line like that. The only other album I can think of at the moment that does this in such a way that I can consider it a favorite of mine is Bat Out of Hell.

One last thing I'll bring up is that if you listen to both Judas Priest and Mercyful Fate you'll notice that the latter picked up quite a lot of influence from the former, particularly in the guitar department (they also covered "The Ripper", so that was kind of obvious). Yet their tones and styles of playing really bring out the flavors they're incorporating more than Judas Priest are able to. I'd take Don't Break the Oath over nearly every Priest album. It's a really great record and one of those 'classic' albums that is truly a classic. It's not perfect, but damn is it good.
 
Judas Priest
Opeth (two of my choices, hard to pick one)
Alter Bridge (hope they leave soon tho)
Priest
 
I think I prefer Sin After Sin so I voted Mercyful Fate.
Priest will most probably win anyway and if not there are other albums of theirs in the game; couldn't vote against Don't Break The Oath at that stage.
Priest in first match, votes in second and third are, again, more on the "against" side.
 
First match is the toughest
Indeed, tough to choose between two albums I nominated. Stained Class may objectively be the better-regarded album historically, but Mob Rules was one of my gateway drugs to metal when I was a kid, so it gets points for sentimental value. Plus, I go to it more often. iTunes says that the title track (technically, the demo version from Deluxe Edition and the Heavy Metal soundtrack) is my single-most-played song in my entire Library. Unlike Stained Class, Mob Rules doesn't have a weak song ("E5150" is an intro track, and a cool, ominous-sounding one at that), and its high points (title track, "Southern Cross" and "Falling Off") are higher than the best from Stained Class, which has only one track ("Beyond the Realms of Death") that can really compare. Finally, "Country Girl" features one of my favorite Iommi riffs of all time. So, my vote goes to Sabbath.

The other matchups are super-easy calls for me: Opeth, Rainbow and Priest.
 
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There's a very good chance that five Judas Priest albums will be in the Sweet 16. I also expect 5 Maiden albums, two Dio, Bruce, Megadeth, Metallica and Sabbath.
 
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