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I don’t care for the quality of Kiske’s voice. It doesn’t matter to me that he can sing in 17 octaves or blend his falsetto with his chest voice or whatever; I need more depth in a vocal. Guys like Russell Allen and Tommy Karevik have that depth while also being able to wail, and I’ll take that any day over a clean tenor with no soul. I have the exact same problem with James LaBrie, although in the studio he is often at least tolerable.
 
LooseCannon said:
I acknowledge Dream Theater's skill. I also acknowledge that they don't have it.
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I’ve come down a bit from feeling that “Dream Theater kinda sucks” but I still have a lot of issues with them. The song “Metropolis” for instance — the first half / two thirds of that song is fucking amazing, and I get that melody stuck in my head like once a day. My issues with that song are: LaBrie. Lots of DT fans admit he’s a love him or hate him kinda guy, and I’m very much in the latter category, even in the early days when he was supposedly good. “Swimming in a lake of FIRE!!!” is such a cool line but it’s hard to take seriously with his warbling. And then after that cool change-up with the bass and drum fills(?) leading to the keyboard lead instrumental section... they kinda just start wanking around and it gets boring, and the ending can’t seem to pick it back up. They’re just a really hard band for me to listen to because there always seems like something could’ve done to avoid boredom but instead they wanted right into the LaBrie Tar Pits.
 
Diesel 11 said:
I’ve come down a bit from feeling that “Dream Theater kinda sucks” but I still have a lot of issues with them. The song “Metropolis” for instance — the first half / two thirds of that song is fucking amazing, and I get that melody stuck in my head like once a day. My issues with that song are: LaBrie. Lots of DT fans admit he’s a love him or hate him kinda guy, and I’m very much in the latter category, even in the early days when he was supposedly good. “Swimming in a lake of FIRE!!!” is such a cool line but it’s hard to take seriously with his warbling. And then after that cool change-up with the bass and drum fills(?) leading to the keyboard lead instrumental section... they kinda just start wanking around and it gets boring, and the ending can’t seem to pick it back up. They’re just a really hard band for me to listen to because there always seems like something could’ve done to avoid boredom but instead they wanted right into the LaBrie Tar Pits.
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I’m in the extreme minority in that I think Metropolis is the second worst song on I&W, for the reasons you stated (though I think LaBrie is fine). It’s the first of their “incredibly wanky” songs.

I totally understand people disliking DT due to the lack of cohesion in the songwriting (even for prog), but that’s only about...half their discography? Which, granted, is a lot, but I think Dream Theater knocks out all the other prog bands in terms of songwriting through their ability to craft simple, almost poppy short songs and ballads.
 
MrKnickerbocker said:
I totally understand people disliking DT due to the lack of cohesion in the songwriting (even for prog), but that’s only about...half their discography?
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Yeah but you forget that 99% of the other half still has LaBrie singing, lol. I should specify that my biggest issue with DT is LaBrie. If someone else sang I might actually be a fan by now.
 
It may not have the consistency of Rust in Peace or the virtuosity of Peace Sells but it's pretty close to both. I agree tho, that RATM is a first class album.
 
Candlemass trounces Venom hard, to remove them from the GMAC. Candlemass's next match will be against Dio.
Helloween holds on to beat Death and advance to League 1. Death's back in Match 24.
Guns 'n Roses wins over Tool, to eliminate them. We'll see how they do against Judas Priest.
Megadave earns advancement to the Premiership by knocking out the only Rage Against the Machine album. It's Black Sabbath next.

I'll update later tonight.
 
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