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European Politics

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Forostar, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

  2. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    Here's his promo video, cover of a David Hasselhoff song :D

    (Turn on CC for subtitles in English :D)
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  3. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

  4. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    o_ODo the other candidates have promo video/singles?
  5. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

    Well, if Blaze decided to run for office
  6. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    Nope :D

    Btw. he was on BBC as well:

  7. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    @Forostar I've been trying to find some information on the Dutch Flexwet system, but the only decent reports I can find are ten years old. Is there any public evaluation in the Netherlands about the pros and cons, and how flexwerkers fare in the system?
  8. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Before I can answer your question I will already say that this is some sort of political issue at the moment. Many people prefer to have a permanent job, but lots of companies are only/mostly providing flexible employment in the last years, which has to do with several factors I am not fully knowledgeable about (atm).
    I thought employers don't dare to take the risk of having to pay costs when (e.g.) workers get sick for a long time. It's cheaper for an employer to hire a flexworker.

    I'll try to get back to your question this weekend. If I can't find English info, I'll to translate some.


    Wet flexibiliteit en zekerheid | Flexwet
    De Wet flexibiliteit en zekerheid, de Flexwet, from 1999
    Here a Dutch language page about this law:
    And the law itself (downloadable):

    Follow-up law (2015):
    Wet Werk en Zekerheid | WWZ
    This law (policy) has come under criticism since it influenced the balance permanent work and flex work a great a deal.
    Here a Dutch language page explaining the updates:
    And the law itself (downloadable):

    I will explain upsides and downsides later and will try to find experiences.
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2017
  9. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    That's what I expected. In Germany, there is a massive problem with non-permanent labour, and recent laws have been passed by our so-called Social Democrats which are supposed to make things better, but just created more loopholes. Critics oftentimes respond with a vague "we should do it like in Holland" or "The Netherlands got it right", but of course never mention any specifics, let alone references.

    Flexible employment has its purpose, of course, to fill peak demands at certain times of the year, and I'm not per se against the idea. However, in Germany, from 2005 onward, the laws were changed to a point where this sort of employment is no longer used as an aid by companies, but has oftentimes become the norm.
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Yes, same here. It is expected that the new government (after formation is over ;) ) will try to change the situation.

    Perhaps this is a good read, although it is short and not only about flexwet.


    Found two more links in English:
    Changes Dutch Labour Law 2o15:

    Working in the Netherlands: changes to Dutch labour law
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2017
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  11. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    Thanks, I'll look into those links.
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  12. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    This is the situation almost everywhere, I'd guess. A clear erosion of workers rights.
  13. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    I had some today after a long time (only restaurant that had them in Serbia took them out of the menu then later closed). It's so good I can feel losing a couple of years of my life after every bite.

    OT: Elections today, woohoo!
  14. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    I think I'm due to die in my early sixties.
  15. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    Looks like Vučić is the new president since he has more than 50% in the first round. Janković is 2nd (I voted for him in the end) and Beli is 3rd. Beli who is a joke candidate has more votes than Jeremić who campaigned to become new United Nations Secretary-General :D

    The most encouraging thing is the right wingers having a really small amount of votes.
  16. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    Terrorist attack in St. Petersburg metro station, 10 dead, 30 injured so far. :confused:
  17. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    Fuck ... again. Wonder which group of scum who are behind this time.

    At least the Russians won't blame the Czechs.
  18. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    Also, I hope they get the bastards alive. Life in a Russian prison is probably no joke.
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  19. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

  20. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    My goodness... they are really aiming at making us feel unsafe here.

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