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On a more serious note however, how many people who become suicide bombers in countries like Iraq, Syria and others would get psychiatric treatment in a western European country? I would wager that it would be quite a lot, given that something can't be quite right in your head if you are ready and willing to blow yourself up for the glory of Allah. So I'm not sure just how much the fact that he was in treatment really tells us.
 
That's what I always think when I hear people debating the difference between terrorism and random shootings. There's something very irrational involved in suicide bombings and cold blooded attacks on civilians.
 
My 2 cents.

The deed is very irrational indeed. But desperation and depression/fear/madness can become a dangerous cocktail when (wrong) ideas (propaganda) are added, to fuel hate and "revenge". And although the Syrian might have been too ill to sense anything, the deed could be seen as a severely egoistic one, as well. "Okay, if I can't live here, some of you cannot either".

Naturally, there have been people like Breivik, who were not mentally ill (as crazy as that sounds), but who had terrible ideas and were full of hate. Depending on the amount of indoctrination, lies and hate can be enough to do all this. And therefore, hateseeding should always be combatted.

When Trump comes to power, I'm afraid the world will see many more terrorists, convinced of crazy ideas. More dangerous people, both Trump supporters and people who hate Trump's guts (and his supporters).
 
As I've said before, perceiving an entire group of people as potential extremists in turn creates more extremism among that group of people. Differentiation (and embracing the good people) matters as much as safety precautions do.

The West exploiting Middle East for decades is one of the key reasons why extremists are so cold-blooded in killing people in Western societies. -You've killed our innocent people, we'll kill your innocent people- Extremism that affects Muslims has more to do with the religious ideology (Wahhabism) these people consider themselves a part of. There's a difference between the mindset of the attacks in the West, and the ones that happen in the Muslim world, I think.
 
Forostar said:
But desperation and depression/fear/madness can become a dangerous cocktail when (wrong) ideas (propaganda) are added, to fuel hate and "revenge".
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That's pretty much my point. I'm pretty sure that many suicide bombers feel this way, the difference only being that in war zone countries like Syria or Iraq, psychiatric help is a luxury unavailable to them, so whatever their illness, it goes undetected. Here, we have the possibility of detecting it, even if this is no guarantee of prevention. In other words, this particular suicide bomber may not have been unusual in any way, we just know more about him.
 
Healthy people wanting to kill one's self for any reason, in the west, is considered a mental illness by default.
 
LooseCannon said:
What is this man suggesting? Do we need armed guards at every church, on every street corner? Jesus. That is ludicrous.
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I think that's what they were suggesting. If we're going to do that, why not have armed guards everywhere? How could that go wrong?

Sky is owned by the same people who own Fox, but they do tend to be a lot more restrained than Fox and try to be neutral. But then you get daft things like this.

I think the most amusing thing to me is when the left and right accuse the BBC of bias on the other side.
 
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RTC said:
I think that's what they were suggesting. If we're going to do that, why not have armed guards everywhere? How could that go wrong?

Sky is owned by the same people who own Fox, but they do tend to be a lot more restrained than Fox and try to be neutral. But then you get daft things like this.

I think the most amusing thing to me is when the left and right accuse the BBC of bias on the other side.
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Spot on. Murdoch's empire also owns The Sun and The Times. Not everyone realises the Times is part of it too.
 
The Times actually isn't under Murdoch's influence as much as The Sun. I still consider conservative papers, like the Telegraph and Times to be a part of the quality press.
 
RTC said:
I think the most amusing thing to me is when the left and right accuse the BBC of bias on the other side.
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Yeah, that does make me laugh. It gets pretty silly sometimes, there's a Nick Robinson meme that was doing the rounds a few years ago saying how biased he is as seen from both sides.
 
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