Death Magnetic
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That dude went through a ton of band members.
But what about Michael Schenker? He had, what, like 6 different singers. He just doesn't get the publicity that Axl does.
But what about Michael Schenker? He had, what, like 6 different singers. He just doesn't get the publicity that Axl does.
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Invader said:
Dave on rhythm guitar. Him and Malmsteen would duke it out right off the bat. While those two are fighting, Axl Rose would secretly hire a host of musicians and release the album under a surreptitious name.
I'll put it this way. These are the band members Rainbow has had between 1975 and 1984, plus the re-activation in 1995 (that's ten years), sans Blackmore:
Ronnie James Dio
Graham Bonnet
Joe Lynn Turner
Craig Gruber
Jimmy Bain
Mark Clarke
Bob Daisley
Roger Glover
Gary Driscoll
Cozy Powell
Bobby Rondinelli
Chuck Bürgi
Mickey Lee Soule
Tony Carey
David Stone
Don Airey
David Rosenthal
Doogie White
Greg Smith
Paul Morris
John O. Reilly
21 members in 9 years. Mustaine wasted the same amount, but needed 25 years for that (and 3 are still with him).
And let's not forget that Ian Gillan left Deep Purple thanks to Blackmore in 1973, returned in 1984, left again in 1989 thanks to Blackmore came back in 1992 and remained only because Blackmore left mid-tour in 1993.
Ronnie James Dio
Graham Bonnet
Joe Lynn Turner
Craig Gruber
Jimmy Bain
Mark Clarke
Bob Daisley
Roger Glover
Gary Driscoll
Cozy Powell
Bobby Rondinelli
Chuck Bürgi
Mickey Lee Soule
Tony Carey
David Stone
Don Airey
David Rosenthal
Doogie White
Greg Smith
Paul Morris
John O. Reilly
21 members in 9 years. Mustaine wasted the same amount, but needed 25 years for that (and 3 are still with him).
And let's not forget that Ian Gillan left Deep Purple thanks to Blackmore in 1973, returned in 1984, left again in 1989 thanks to Blackmore came back in 1992 and remained only because Blackmore left mid-tour in 1993.
Invader
Ancient Mariner
Genghis Khan said:
Then Lars complains that the fans can't accept the change, Schaffer fires the whole lot, until he gets Axl back because the fans apparently want it so much. Mustaine goes to rehab, starts a new band, and is forever bitter at Schaffer, while Malmsteen starts a solo career with himself on every single cover. Ten years later Lars rejoins the band and, seeing that Mustaine is making good music again, decides to go back to their roots, but end up making an overextended and underproduced album. And so on.
Wow, that would be an awesome soap opera. Almost as good as the Osbournes.
by the way, I've never watched a single episode of that show...
Perun said:
By Wikipedia's count, excluding the current line-up, Iced Earth has had 3 singers, 6 lead guitarists, 7 bassists, 7 drummers, and two keyboardists. That's 25 members in 23 years. Better than Megadeth, but nowhere near Rainbow.
Hmm, Maiden in their first five years would have beat any of these though.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
About Rainbow, there's at least one mistake in the list of musicians. I miss drummer John Micelli.
Between 1975 and 1984 = 10 years
Blackmore reformed the band in 1993 or 1994. The last concert was in 1997. => 5 or 6 years.
So we’re talking about 15 or 16 years, not 9.
Well, I have an idea why Bruce likes this track. The couplet rhythm is very much like “Darkside of Aquarius” and “Book of Thel”. I think he loves that kind of groovy stuff. Besides, the song has quite some rhythm/tempo changes, so it's surely quite an interesting song.
Between 1975 and 1984 = 10 years
Blackmore reformed the band in 1993 or 1994. The last concert was in 1997. => 5 or 6 years.
So we’re talking about 15 or 16 years, not 9.
Invader said:
Well, I have an idea why Bruce likes this track. The couplet rhythm is very much like “Darkside of Aquarius” and “Book of Thel”. I think he loves that kind of groovy stuff. Besides, the song has quite some rhythm/tempo changes, so it's surely quite an interesting song.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Seems like madness has entered the thread, but as I sit here and listen to some of the songs from DM now (on Youtube, so I can't really comment on the sound quality of the album) I feel like coming with a couple of comments:
The chorus of the opening song is very reminiscent of the chorus of Dyers Eve - but the drums aren't up to that level. Start practising again, mr. Ulrich. Also, the verse riff of "The end of the line" sounds a bit like the verse of "The four horsemen". Are they using old ideas over again? Is that their way of "going back to the roots"?
The chorus of the opening song is very reminiscent of the chorus of Dyers Eve - but the drums aren't up to that level. Start practising again, mr. Ulrich. Also, the verse riff of "The end of the line" sounds a bit like the verse of "The four horsemen". Are they using old ideas over again? Is that their way of "going back to the roots"?
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Onhell said:
Degrasso, who lasted only about four years, replaced Menza who has been Megadeth's most stable drummer. Therefore I would not consider Degrasso as part of the "classic" line up. I'd consider Samuelson more of a "classic" Megadeth drummer, second only to Menza, because Samuelson's two debut albums are more influential in their drumming than the two Degrasso albums and because Samuelson played on Peace Sells, one of the best metal albums of all time.
Back on topic...
Two point about DM. The song about James' poca lips sounds similar to Testament's Alone in the Dark in terms of fast singing. I wish DM was not recorded so damn loudly. There is a monotone wall of sound in the upper echeleons of decibles, which is not a good thing. The soft parts sound the same as the heavy parts. This makes the already similar songs sound even more similar. The fairly bad recording is not as noticeable with ear phones, but much more in my car stereo.
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Here is a wikipedia summary. I thought it would add more info on this topic. In time I will get used to the production -- I hope. Twice today the radio played The Day That Never Comes and I enjoyed it.
Criticism regarding production
The album has been criticized for having compromised sound quality and being compressed "past the point of distortion".[49] Sean Michaels of The Guardian explains that "the sound issues are a result of the "loudness war" - an ongoing industry effort to make recordings as loud as possible". A Rolling Stone article states that Rick Rubin was "overseeing mixes in Los Angeles while the band is in Europe, headlining shows" and only communicated with him by conference calls.[50] Fans have noted that these sonic problems are not present in the Guitar Hero version of the album, where the tracks are present separately because of the game mechanics.[51][52] MusicRadar and Rolling Stone attribute a quote to the album's mastering engineer Ted Jensen in which he claims that "mixes were already brick-walled before they arrived" for mastering[53][54] and cite a petition from fans to remix or remaster the album.[55]
Metallica and Rick Rubin have since declined to comment on the issue, while the band's co-manager Cliff Burnstein stated that complainers were in a minority and that response to the album had otherwise been "overwhelmingly positive".[56]
@ Invader: In my ears, the distinction between soft and hard sounds is more present when I use the ear phones. Oh well, I guess our hearing works differently.
Criticism regarding production
The album has been criticized for having compromised sound quality and being compressed "past the point of distortion".[49] Sean Michaels of The Guardian explains that "the sound issues are a result of the "loudness war" - an ongoing industry effort to make recordings as loud as possible". A Rolling Stone article states that Rick Rubin was "overseeing mixes in Los Angeles while the band is in Europe, headlining shows" and only communicated with him by conference calls.[50] Fans have noted that these sonic problems are not present in the Guitar Hero version of the album, where the tracks are present separately because of the game mechanics.[51][52] MusicRadar and Rolling Stone attribute a quote to the album's mastering engineer Ted Jensen in which he claims that "mixes were already brick-walled before they arrived" for mastering[53][54] and cite a petition from fans to remix or remaster the album.[55]
Metallica and Rick Rubin have since declined to comment on the issue, while the band's co-manager Cliff Burnstein stated that complainers were in a minority and that response to the album had otherwise been "overwhelmingly positive".[56]
@ Invader: In my ears, the distinction between soft and hard sounds is more present when I use the ear phones. Oh well, I guess our hearing works differently.
Invader
Ancient Mariner
It could also be because I listen more attentively with ear phones, so I notice the bad quality more easily.
About that manager's statement: According to some Finnish news source (can't remember where I read it), he said that the production isn't bad, it's "exciting"...* Yeah, exciting like St. Anger's, right?
*Translated from Finnish, so he may have used a slightly different word.
About that manager's statement: According to some Finnish news source (can't remember where I read it), he said that the production isn't bad, it's "exciting"...* Yeah, exciting like St. Anger's, right?
*Translated from Finnish, so he may have used a slightly different word.
I listened to it again and I really did notice the terrible production, now that you have mentioned it. I did so by playing a track from a well-produced album - Master of Puppets, then playing a track from (AMOLA)DM.