Classic albums and famous bands you don't like

[Eddie's Uncle]

The beatles. I know they were the first one or the creators of something but i just cant listen to them

They weren't the creators of anything except modern music marketing. They didn't invent rock, they didn't create beat music, they didn't create psychedelic.
They were a skiffle band originally and turned to Beat when it was hip in he bars. They were the first band to have huge success with that music and yes, they set the standard for coming bands, but they were in no way inventors. A few years later Psych was the new shit and they jumped on that train too. At that point they were already huge, so they introduced Psychedelic to the masses, and hey may be credit for helping to forge that sound, but they were far from being the creators.

And on a personal note: I think they were pretty talented as a Beat band. As a Psychedelic band, they sucked. If you listen to the albums from Rubber Soul onward, you will find that the good songs (and all the hits) were still much in the vein of their earlier sound (Let it be, Here Comes The Sun, Penny Lane etc). The really experimental stuff is utter shite and was not successful at all. Only die hard Beatles worshippers claim that dreadful garbage like Rocky Racoon, Wild Honey Pie, Piggies, March of the Meanies, Strawberry Fields or Blackbird is genius.

 

[Diesel 11]

The Beatles didn’t invent much (you might be able to make an argument for metal), but their ability to incorporate so many different influences and styles into their music is what makes them so innovative.

The really experimental stuff is utter shite and was not successful at all. Only die hard Beatles worshippers claim that dreadful garbage like Rocky Racoon, Wild Honey Pie, Piggies, March of the Meanies, Strawberry Fields or Blackbird is genius.

I don’t think many people like “Wild Honey Pie” beyond its place as an interlude track, if at all. It’s consistently considered one of the worst tracks from the whole discography.

“March of the Meanies” isn’t even a Beatles song, that’s a George Martin composition from Yellow Submarine’s second side that nobody except me listens to lol.

Yeah I don’t know why “Blackbird” and “Strawberry Fields” are here as they’re two of the most famous and popular Beatles songs well beyond their die hard fans. The “Strawberry Fields Forever”/“Penny Lane” single is widely considered their best, and not just because of “Penny Lane”. That’s the less famous track.

 

[Poto]

Led Zeppelin is one of the most boring bands I have heard.

 

[Cat Milk Supreme]

Slayer would be a legendary band that I've never had any time for. I've tried but no, not a flickering of enjoyment to be had.

In terms of the Beatles, I wouldn't say I dislike like them but I just don't care at all. They have some jaunty numbers that I'll enjoy if they come on the radio but the only song that ever really grabbed me was Get Back but even that wasn't enough to make me check out their albums.

I'm gonna put Zepplin, Priest and Floyd in a particular category. They all have songs that I love and seek out from time to time but all have stuff I can't listen to. About 20-30mins of each band is all I can handle.

 

[PieceofMind89]

Guns n roses, I never could get into them. They did one good album(Appetite) and the rest is meh. Basically one album wonders.

P.S. I can't believe people are naming Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Motörhead and Judas Priest. All great and legendary bands.

 

[permanenteddie]

Just based on the last posts and some personal ones:
- The Beatles: I think the only song of them that I like is While my guitar gently wheeps...and I prefer the version with Prince, not even the original one! All of the other songs I've listened from them (and I listened to quite a lot) are 95% of the time just ok songs...fun to listen to but never the kind of songs I want to push the replay button
- Led Zeppelin: back in the days where there was no Internet, I heard so much praise about Led Zeppelin that I thought I was going to fall in love and be a fan of each and every album and each and every song. Oh god I couldn't have been more wrong. There are some songs that are just amazing (Immigrant song, Since I've been loving you, Stairway to heaven, Achille's last stand, No quarter) but god there are so many that are just plain boring or just very average ones. I just don't understand all the love and praise. For sure they've opened a lot of doors and have been forerunners in a lot of things that helped the hard rock in general but their discography...just a very average one for me
- Kiss: more or less the same as Led Zeppelin. Back in the day I was intrigued by all their image and by some reviews of their discography saying how amazing their 70's albums were (and specially Alive of course). Again when I had the chance to listen to their most famous albums (basically from the self titled until Dinasty)...some songs were fun (Love gun, I stole your love, I want you, God of thunder, Going blind) but most of them it was just...so so so so average, just a very basic rock thing, and most of the times the sound (specially on the first 3 albums) is so bad! I always thought if it wasn't for their image, costumes...would they ever have achieved the status they have?

 

[JudasMyGuide]

To react as well

The Beatles - nope, sorry, don't get where you all coming from. I don't listen to them much anymore (more prone to put on some solo Harrison or Wings instead), because of oversaturation, but melodically, ideologically, production-wise... they hit something. I have seen high-brow and low-brow discussions on them that were really inspiring, I have spinned those records until I was abolutely sick and no, I don't think their success was a mere coincidence or just marketing or what. But to each his own, I guess.

Led Zeppelin - I'm way past my fandom era (it's not just that the songs feel overplayed, but I can't stand Plant's voice nowadays, his moans and screeches could literally expel the wormwoods from your furniture), but the rhythm section is exceptional (especially Bonzo, although Jones was really talented as well) and Page might be a bit overrated, but he was really such a "cool" guitarist - I mean, I don't listen to studio records nowadays, but just recently I've been listening to How the West Was Won (where you won't even get some of the best stuff like No Quarter or Achilles Last Stand, because it's a relatively early-era show) and I was surprised at how excited I was. It was, juicy, energetic, catchy. Incredible live chemistry, the like of which is unimaginable in metal. Or with other rock bands who don't know how to groove and don't know how to improvise and don't have this incredible jam chemistry together.
But then again, I also find Cream live exciting (let alone The Allmen, whom my wife compared LedZep as they remind her of each other live), so maybe I'm just dumb, lol.

Kiss - to me, nothing more than a rather talented power-pop band (Goin' Blind is surprisingly strong song for such a band) that got way too famous for their own good. I am still fascinated with how much some people (like Portnoy or members here) really dig them (I think Mosh has watched the entirety of Kissology), because everything about them screams "second-rate" to me. Some good power pop songs, some underrated guitarists (well, Frehley is possibly overrated nowadays, if anything), but that's about it. Still, I like to put them on from time to time.


To add a band, I was actually a fan for a while, but then it all somehow crashed and I just can't stand Rush. I mean, I can enjoy Clockwork Angels and some of the original 70s trilogy, but as a whole, I hate the music, I hate the lyrics, I hate Geddy Lee's voice, I hate the cult of them (which always felt rather US-centric to me, I don't think many prog fans here in Europe would think about them as highly). It's like an allergy, it's an immediate reaction, immediate repulsion. Sorry.

 

[MrKnickerbocker]

There's a lot of classic bands that I get why they were popular and I think are talented, but I just do not like them. The Beatles, Zeppelin, Floyd all fall into that category.

Then there is KISS, who I don't get and I think objectively suck.

 

[permanenteddie]

To add a band, I was actually a fan for a while, but then it all somehow crashed and I just can't stand Rush. I mean, I can enjoy Clockwork Angels and some of the original 70s trilogy, but as a whole, I hate the music, I hate the lyrics, I hate Geddy Lee's voice, I hate the cult of them (which always felt rather US-centric to me, I don't think many prog fans here in Europe would think about them as highly). It's like an allergy, it's an immediate reaction, immediate repulsion. Sorry.

It's funny because for me it's the full opposite, I'm a huge prog fan and a pure european and Rush is by far my favorite band (with Maiden), love their music and the way they always tried to evolve and develop their it throughout their 40 years of career. And same goes for lyrics, which for me are a huge part why I love them (and why there are a lot of bands out there I may kinda like the music but not fan overall because of stupid or childish lyrics), and while I don't always agree with Neil's views but at least he always gives food for thought, something that doesn't always happen with a lot of bands

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

The Beatles didn’t invent much (you might be able to make an argument for metal), but their ability to incorporate so many different influences and styles into their music is what makes them so innovative...

... or what makes them so incoherent and inconsistent in quality. It's a question of perspective.

“March of the Meanies” isn’t even a Beatles song, that’s a George Martin composition from Yellow Submarine’s second side that nobody except me listens to lol.

I know, but it is still in heir catalogue, with their approval. When I follow some classic rock discussion in social media and music forums, I get he impression hat quite a few worshippers discuss that material and all the other weirdo songs.

Yeah I don’t know why “Blackbird” and “Strawberry Fields” are here as they’re two of the most famous and popular Beatles songs well beyond their die hard fans.

Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.

The “Strawberry Fields Forever”/“Penny Lane” single is widely considered their best, and not just because of “Penny Lane”. That’s the less famous track.

If so, then it is dependent on area. Maybe in USA or England that may be true. In Germany definitely not. Sometimes huge hits perform different in different markets. I wasnt born yet in the sixties so I dont't know how it was back then, but in their current legacy here in he german mainstream, Strawberry is rarely visible, unlike Penny Lane. And rightly so, I think. Penny Lane is a much better song imho.

 

[Mosh]

The Beatles didn’t invent much (you might be able to make an argument for metal), but their ability to incorporate so many different influences and styles into their music is what makes them so innovative

Funny you say that, because I think metal is the one thing they sometimes get credit for that is completely unwarranted.

 

[Edington]

Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.

For someone who doesn't like them I'm surprised and slightly impressed at how many deep cuts you seem to know

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

To react as well

The Beatles - nope, sorry, don't get where you all coming from. I don't listen to them much anymore (more prone to put on some solo Harrison or Wings instead), because of oversaturation, but melodically, ideologically, production-wise... they hit something. I have seen high-brow and low-brow discussions on them that were really inspiring, I have spinned those records until I was abolutely sick and no, I don't think their success was a mere coincidence or just marketing or what. But to each his own, I guess.

Well, I don't deny the Beatles had talent, and a certain special appeal beyond mere marketing. I don't even deny they had some good songs. I just strongly oppose the everlasting myth that the Beatles were huge innovators or creators of Beat, modern day Rock or Psychedelic or whatever. And I think that for every good song, they had about 2 mediocre ones and 3 terrible stinkers. That's not a ratio I would expect from the "greatest band in history", and that's why I consider them seriously overrated.

Kiss

I am a fan - I just don't listen to the music
I find them very entertaining because they are real-life satire, and so beyond all earthly reason while taking themselves super seriously, it just pure fun. Insane egos, drama, debauchery, excess, delusions of grandeur despite being average to very poor musicians... awesome.
Musically, I think their entire 70s catalogue is largely forgettable (Deuce being the only great song), but I can enjoy some of their 80s tracks. I love silly glam/hair Metal, and Kiss worked hard to outpose bands like Winger or Poison. On record it is rather boring, but the videos are hilariously trashy. Tears are Falling makes me laugh every time I watch it. I love the irony that toxic male machos try so hard to be as macho as possible that they come across as ultra gay.

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

For someone who doesn't like them I'm surprised and slightly impressed at how many deep cuts you seem to know

Believe it or not, I have listened to all their official studio albums completely, and most of them several times. So you can call me a moron without taste, but at least no one can say I don't know the bands I dislike
60s msuic culture was part of my studies in musicology, so I had to listen to them a lot.
I would prefer The Supremes or The Seekers over the Beatles any day.
And I would prefer the Beatles over Led Zeppelin.

 

[Eddie's Uncle]

Guns n roses, I never could get into them. They did one good album(Appetite) and the rest is meh. Basically one album wonders.

P.S. I can't believe people are naming Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Motörhead and Judas Priest. All great and legendary bands.

I actually like the Use Your Illusion albums a lot, even though they have some terrible garbage songs too. But if I would throw all the fillers out and make it one single album with all the great songs, it would be much better than Appetite (which has a killer A side, but a much weaker B side).
A third of the tracks on UYI were written pre-Appetite anyway.

 

[Sheriff_of_Huddersfield]

Then there is KISS, who I don't get and I think objectively suck.

Kiss was a hell of a comedy act, though.

Even if you don’t like (or maybe especially if you don’t like) KISS, and this episode starts a little slow, it’s hilarious to watch Ace Frehley’s antics piss off Gene Simmons and confuse Paul Stanley. It’s a case study of a band falling apart and the cracks beginning to publicly show.

 

[Diesel 11]

Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.

Yeah I don’t think radio is that good of a metric because where I live “Strawberry Fields Forever” is constantly in rotation. I was gonna bring this up earlier but as much as Rolling Stone magazine isn’t the best metric by which to judge things on, in their most recent Top 500 songs list, “Strawberry Fields” was #7. It’s not my favorite Beatles song but if you factor in the technical aspects of it — George Martin stitching two different takes at different tempos and different keys together into one song — then I think a case could be made for it on innovation alone.

Funny you say that, because I think metal is the one thing they sometimes get credit for that is completely unwarranted.

Purely talking about “Helter Skelter” and “She’s So Heavy”, although I don’t think they did as much for the genre as they’re given credit for. But they still count as proto-metal tracks.

 

[Sheriff_of_Huddersfield]

Led Zeppelin is one of the most boring bands I have heard.

Precisely. That was their mass appeal in a way. They were pretty much generic early arena rock. Chances are most of their fans were familiar with maybe 2 tracks per album up until Presence (where that number falls to zero).