Classic albums and famous bands you don't like

Guns n roses, I never could get into them. They did one good album(Appetite) and the rest is meh. Basically one album wonders.

P.S. I can't believe people are naming Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Motörhead and Judas Priest. All great and legendary bands.
 
Just based on the last posts and some personal ones:
- The Beatles: I think the only song of them that I like is While my guitar gently wheeps...and I prefer the version with Prince, not even the original one! All of the other songs I've listened from them (and I listened to quite a lot) are 95% of the time just ok songs...fun to listen to but never the kind of songs I want to push the replay button
- Led Zeppelin: back in the days where there was no Internet, I heard so much praise about Led Zeppelin that I thought I was going to fall in love and be a fan of each and every album and each and every song. Oh god I couldn't have been more wrong. There are some songs that are just amazing (Immigrant song, Since I've been loving you, Stairway to heaven, Achille's last stand, No quarter) but god there are so many that are just plain boring or just very average ones. I just don't understand all the love and praise. For sure they've opened a lot of doors and have been forerunners in a lot of things that helped the hard rock in general but their discography...just a very average one for me
- Kiss: more or less the same as Led Zeppelin. Back in the day I was intrigued by all their image and by some reviews of their discography saying how amazing their 70's albums were (and specially Alive of course). Again when I had the chance to listen to their most famous albums (basically from the self titled until Dinasty)...some songs were fun (Love gun, I stole your love, I want you, God of thunder, Going blind) but most of them it was just...so so so so average, just a very basic rock thing, and most of the times the sound (specially on the first 3 albums) is so bad! I always thought if it wasn't for their image, costumes...would they ever have achieved the status they have?
 
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The Beatles - nope, sorry, don't get where you all coming from. I don't listen to them much anymore (more prone to put on some solo Harrison or Wings instead), because of oversaturation, but melodically, ideologically, production-wise... they hit something. I have seen high-brow and low-brow discussions on them that were really inspiring, I have spinned those records until I was abolutely sick and no, I don't think their success was a mere coincidence or just marketing or what. But to each his own, I guess.

Led Zeppelin - I'm way past my fandom era (it's not just that the songs feel overplayed, but I can't stand Plant's voice nowadays, his moans and screeches could literally expel the wormwoods from your furniture), but the rhythm section is exceptional (especially Bonzo, although Jones was really talented as well) and Page might be a bit overrated, but he was really such a "cool" guitarist - I mean, I don't listen to studio records nowadays, but just recently I've been listening to How the West Was Won (where you won't even get some of the best stuff like No Quarter or Achilles Last Stand, because it's a relatively early-era show) and I was surprised at how excited I was. It was, juicy, energetic, catchy. Incredible live chemistry, the like of which is unimaginable in metal. Or with other rock bands who don't know how to groove and don't know how to improvise and don't have this incredible jam chemistry together.
But then again, I also find Cream live exciting (let alone The Allmen, whom my wife compared LedZep as they remind her of each other live), so maybe I'm just dumb, lol.

Kiss - to me, nothing more than a rather talented power-pop band (Goin' Blind is surprisingly strong song for such a band) that got way too famous for their own good. I am still fascinated with how much some people (like Portnoy or members here) really dig them (I think Mosh has watched the entirety of Kissology), because everything about them screams "second-rate" to me. Some good power pop songs, some underrated guitarists (well, Frehley is possibly overrated nowadays, if anything), but that's about it. Still, I like to put them on from time to time.


To add a band, I was actually a fan for a while, but then it all somehow crashed and I just can't stand Rush. I mean, I can enjoy Clockwork Angels and some of the original 70s trilogy, but as a whole, I hate the music, I hate the lyrics, I hate Geddy Lee's voice, I hate the cult of them (which always felt rather US-centric to me, I don't think many prog fans here in Europe would think about them as highly). It's like an allergy, it's an immediate reaction, immediate repulsion. Sorry.
 
There's a lot of classic bands that I get why they were popular and I think are talented, but I just do not like them. The Beatles, Zeppelin, Floyd all fall into that category.

Then there is KISS, who I don't get and I think objectively suck.
 
JudasMyGuide said:
To add a band, I was actually a fan for a while, but then it all somehow crashed and I just can't stand Rush. I mean, I can enjoy Clockwork Angels and some of the original 70s trilogy, but as a whole, I hate the music, I hate the lyrics, I hate Geddy Lee's voice, I hate the cult of them (which always felt rather US-centric to me, I don't think many prog fans here in Europe would think about them as highly). It's like an allergy, it's an immediate reaction, immediate repulsion. Sorry.
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It's funny because for me it's the full opposite, I'm a huge prog fan and a pure european and Rush is by far my favorite band (with Maiden), love their music and the way they always tried to evolve and develop their it throughout their 40 years of career. And same goes for lyrics, which for me are a huge part why I love them (and why there are a lot of bands out there I may kinda like the music but not fan overall because of stupid or childish lyrics), and while I don't always agree with Neil's views but at least he always gives food for thought, something that doesn't always happen with a lot of bands
 
Diesel 11 said:
The Beatles didn’t invent much (you might be able to make an argument for metal), but their ability to incorporate so many different influences and styles into their music is what makes them so innovative...
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... or what makes them so incoherent and inconsistent in quality. It's a question of perspective.
Diesel 11 said:
“March of the Meanies” isn’t even a Beatles song, that’s a George Martin composition from Yellow Submarine’s second side that nobody except me listens to lol.
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I know, but it is still in heir catalogue, with their approval. When I follow some classic rock discussion in social media and music forums, I get he impression hat quite a few worshippers discuss that material and all the other weirdo songs.
Diesel 11 said:
Yeah I don’t know why “Blackbird” and “Strawberry Fields” are here as they’re two of the most famous and popular Beatles songs well beyond their die hard fans.
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Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.
Diesel 11 said:
The “Strawberry Fields Forever”/“Penny Lane” single is widely considered their best, and not just because of “Penny Lane”. That’s the less famous track.
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If so, then it is dependent on area. Maybe in USA or England that may be true. In Germany definitely not. Sometimes huge hits perform different in different markets. I wasnt born yet in the sixties so I dont't know how it was back then, but in their current legacy here in he german mainstream, Strawberry is rarely visible, unlike Penny Lane. And rightly so, I think. Penny Lane is a much better song imho.
 
Diesel 11 said:
The Beatles didn’t invent much (you might be able to make an argument for metal), but their ability to incorporate so many different influences and styles into their music is what makes them so innovative
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Funny you say that, because I think metal is the one thing they sometimes get credit for that is completely unwarranted.
 
Eddie's Uncle said:
Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.
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For someone who doesn't like them I'm surprised and slightly impressed at how many deep cuts you seem to know :lol:
 
JudasMyGuide said:
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The Beatles - nope, sorry, don't get where you all coming from. I don't listen to them much anymore (more prone to put on some solo Harrison or Wings instead), because of oversaturation, but melodically, ideologically, production-wise... they hit something. I have seen high-brow and low-brow discussions on them that were really inspiring, I have spinned those records until I was abolutely sick and no, I don't think their success was a mere coincidence or just marketing or what. But to each his own, I guess.
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Well, I don't deny the Beatles had talent, and a certain special appeal beyond mere marketing. I don't even deny they had some good songs. I just strongly oppose the everlasting myth that the Beatles were huge innovators or creators of Beat, modern day Rock or Psychedelic or whatever. And I think that for every good song, they had about 2 mediocre ones and 3 terrible stinkers. That's not a ratio I would expect from the "greatest band in history", and that's why I consider them seriously overrated.
JudasMyGuide said:
Kiss
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I am a fan - I just don't listen to the music
I find them very entertaining because they are real-life satire, and so beyond all earthly reason while taking themselves super seriously, it just pure fun. Insane egos, drama, debauchery, excess, delusions of grandeur despite being average to very poor musicians... awesome.
Musically, I think their entire 70s catalogue is largely forgettable (Deuce being the only great song), but I can enjoy some of their 80s tracks. I love silly glam/hair Metal, and Kiss worked hard to outpose bands like Winger or Poison. On record it is rather boring, but the videos are hilariously trashy. Tears are Falling makes me laugh every time I watch it. I love the irony that toxic male machos try so hard to be as macho as possible that they come across as ultra gay.
 
Edington said:
For someone who doesn't like them I'm surprised and slightly impressed at how many deep cuts you seem to know :lol:
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Believe it or not, I have listened to all their official studio albums completely, and most of them several times. So you can call me a moron without taste, but at least no one can say I don't know the bands I dislike ;)
60s msuic culture was part of my studies in musicology, so I had to listen to them a lot.
I would prefer The Supremes or The Seekers over the Beatles any day.
And I would prefer the Beatles over Led Zeppelin.
 
PieceofMind89 said:
Guns n roses, I never could get into them. They did one good album(Appetite) and the rest is meh. Basically one album wonders.

P.S. I can't believe people are naming Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Motörhead and Judas Priest. All great and legendary bands.
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I actually like the Use Your Illusion albums a lot, even though they have some terrible garbage songs too. But if I would throw all the fillers out and make it one single album with all the great songs, it would be much better than Appetite (which has a killer A side, but a much weaker B side).
A third of the tracks on UYI were written pre-Appetite anyway.
 
Eddie's Uncle said:
Hmm. Been ages since I heard Strawberry on the radio, and I can't remember to ever have heard Blackbird on air, unlike Penny Lane, AYNIL, IWTHYH, Help, HCTS, Yesterday, Obladi, She Loves You and all those singalongs. So while they may not be deep cuts like Sexy Sadie, I never considered them to be among their popular catalogue. But maybe thats just me.
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Yeah I don’t think radio is that good of a metric because where I live “Strawberry Fields Forever” is constantly in rotation. I was gonna bring this up earlier but as much as Rolling Stone magazine isn’t the best metric by which to judge things on, in their most recent Top 500 songs list, “Strawberry Fields” was #7. It’s not my favorite Beatles song but if you factor in the technical aspects of it — George Martin stitching two different takes at different tempos and different keys together into one song — then I think a case could be made for it on innovation alone.

Mosh said:
Funny you say that, because I think metal is the one thing they sometimes get credit for that is completely unwarranted.
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Purely talking about “Helter Skelter” and “She’s So Heavy”, although I don’t think they did as much for the genre as they’re given credit for. But they still count as proto-metal tracks.
 
MindRuler said:
I tried it many times! The Wall and Wish You Were Here are quite ok but not to a point I´d like to relisten them. It may sound blasphemous to some I guess.
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I used to be a huge fan in secondary school, I was devouring the post-Obscured discography like a man possessed, but I can totally see where people would be bored by it. Furthermore, I myself have grown out of it. Or more precisely, I have grown out of Waters - he is the driving force, the edge, the bloke that makes the band interesting ... and as long as I was willing to tolerate him, I was a fan, but ever since I found it it is better for my soul to avoid him a bit (the extreme bile he spouts against everyone on The Wall is both fascinating and captivating, but also toxic and kinda childish), I realise I don't listen to Floyd at all.

What doesn't help is the fact that despite me not being a genre purist, I kinda agree that they shouldn't be classified as "prog", not because of any fault on their side, but they just don't scratch that particular itch. They're like the Moody Blues in that regard - whom I like much more and whom I find much more consistent.

I have given Animals and Gilmour's On an Island a spin, relatively recently, for the nostalgia alone and while I like both (although Island does feel a bit too lethargic) and I suppose I will keep on liking Animals and WYWH, but the fandom as such seems to have left me mostly.

Also, I have never liked the early era, which seems to be really loved - Barret's childish nursery aesthetic leaves me completely cold and a lot of the "mindblowing" stuff, like the musical chaos of Interstellar Overdrive or Saucerful of Secrets is very boring and sounds terribly dated nowadays. I mean, Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane could get away with that, as they were more instrumentally proficient (GD are more or less a jam band, after all), here I see absolutely no reason to listen to Piper apart from a song or two (like Astronomy Domine, which is dated, but atmospheric and actually a good song and Lucifer Sam has a good riff at least).
 
Eddie's Uncle said:
On record it is rather boring, but the videos are hilariously trashy. Tears are Falling makes me laugh every time I watch it. I love the irony that toxic male machos try so hard to be as macho as possible that they come across as ultra gay.
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Pretty much my relationship with Kiss in a nutshell. Although I do have a genuine love for Detroit Rock City and one or 2 others.

Eddie's Uncle said:
I actually like the Use Your Illusion albums a lot, even though they have some terrible garbage songs too. But if I would throw all the fillers out and make it one single album
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Also my thoughts. Some absolute bangers on UYI. Don't Damn Me is a career highlight, for me.
 
The Beatles are incredibly hit or miss for me. For every Helter Skeletor or Here Comes the Sun, there’s three or four songs that bore me to tears. I’ll respect their musical diversity and songwriting, but I’ll rarely actively listen to them.

KISS is truly awful to my ears. If there’s a “classic” band that I’d pick as the most overrated, it’s KISS. All “style,” zero substance - and that goes for all the glam shit that they clearly inspired (e.g. Motley Crue, Poison, etc.)

AC/DC is fun classic rock, but outside of Hell’s Bells every song really does sound the same. Not so much a complaint as it is an observation, since they’re probably the best background music for a party. But for active listening? Nope.

Judas Priest is really hit or miss for me. I absolutely love Painkiller and Firepower, but outside of a few classic tunes here or there most of their other stuff is in one ear and out the other. How they are always compared to Iron Maiden is beyond me, since the songs are far more pedestrian and the vocals are nowhere near the same level (come at me bros).

riff said:
Pink Floyd bore me senseless.
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I love Animals (mostly Pigs and Dogs), but most of their other stuff does relatively little for me. Dark Side of the Moon is about as overrated as it gets. I require riffs!
 
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