I’d like to give an explanation of my view on this whole “case”. This might anger people (again) but I still like to respond to Onhell’s statement, which was surely meant well.
My reaction is also meant well. It serves as some relief for myself, but also as a defense.
Let’s hope it won’t make matters worse.
Onhell said:
I want to clarify something that hurts me about this debate:
I think it is truly sad that members of this board let a simple debate get to them to the point of threatening to delete accounts, delete accounts or ignore other users (this has happened in the past.)
As yet, I honestly haven't done any of those options.
Onhell said:
whether we are being open minded or not, understand the argument or are imposing our views on others, we should know better by now, we know each other well enough by now (at least the oldies). I believe it was Duke who posted a pic long ago which read: Fighting over the internet is like running in the special Olympics, win or lose you are still retarded... 'nuff said.
If I read back the whole topic (I have done it many times and even let 3 other people analyze it, independently - they all know me well, and told me they have looked at it as neutral as they could), the only thing that I regret is that I called these hunters “dumb” and “losers.”
Still, are these terms worse than some other words, used by others on this forum?
Absolutely not. Besides, they were not directed at some person on this forum.
Anyway, I understood that those terms might have provoked LC’s sudden(!) anger, and I changed them.
Something that might have trickered Perun to delete his account might have been me when I told him that some things he said were painful to me (I still think that his last two longer posts were not only pretty hard and personal, but also quite unjust and not deserved – I have the arguments to back that up, but this might not be the moment to go deeper in that).
What’s wrong with telling someone that his words hurt? It surely was no offense or anything else that comes close to violation of the rules.
Also Per probably meant to introduce that old seal hunt topic as something positive, where I interpreted it as a negative one. (I could also go deeper in that, though this is also not the moment.) That might have caused Perun’s emotions.
Not unimportant: I haven't attacked people, nor ignored people in any personal way. I reacted to LC, and he reacted to me, we were reading most things we said to eachother, and often we replied to posts of the other.
So that went pretty well.
Perhaps it was also not cool to hear that I thought that it is hard for some to look at it in an objective way. I said it's hard for some to be critical of their own country, and it's also hard for them to be open to criticism voiced by an "outsider".
Especially that last one I really experienced. LC will surely know which sentence I mean.
First I really doubted every thing that I did in this topic, but now, the more often I read it, the more I’m convinced that I hardly did anything wrong. And I’d appreciate it if you guys will believe that I did some self reflection.
It really feels that a few people couldn’t stand my different opinion (an opinion which is worldwide, but strangely enough on this forum it isn’t). They tried to change mine, but I simply couldn’t be convinced. Did I try to change their opinions? Perhaps I did, I tried to show other sources of information, but soon I realized that some things work different with several people.
For me, moral reasons come before rules. I compare this with: I find it terrible how someone can be discriminated in country B because it’s not against the rules in country B.
So a lot of the legal reasoning (LC’s knows a lot about that!) doesn’t really do much for me. How bad someone’s economical situation may be, I think that’s no excuse for these “jobs”, and definitely not for the way the “work” is executed. Also, don’t forget that the real reason of the topic was not the hunt itself but the imo “cover-up” act of Canada’s officials (hence “Chinese methods”). These are my views. People tell me to accept theirs. At some point I did, but that doesn’t mean I have to shut up about my own.
But did some others accept my opinion? I hardly had that idea, especially not, when thinking of posts, done by IronDuke, SMX, Perun and to some lesser extent, LC.
That’s why I said that the “tolerance-rate” seemed pretty low towards my ideas. I still stand by that.
