Black Bart
Ancient Mariner
As a non-native English speaker, I haven't paid much attention to the lyrics (I seldom do, other than when I read poetry). I think this dimension has to be taken into account: statistically, I'm not even sure that native English-speaking Iron Maiden (and affiliates) fans are a majority in the world.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
As a non-native English speaker, I haven't paid much attention to the lyrics (I seldom do, other than when I read poetry). I think this dimension has to be taken into account: statistically, I'm not even sure that native English-speaking Iron Maiden (and affiliates) fans are a majority in the world.
True. Anyway, in my humble opinion the song rocks regardless of the lyrics. The lyrics just make it even better.
Black Bart
Ancient Mariner
A song about Unit 731 as a Japanese b-side might have seemed a little daring! The Japanese government had not recognised its existence until 2002 (this single is from 1994).
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Apparently, there would be some What Does This Button Do? book tour dates in 2019. So far, I am aware of two:
13/01/2019 Teatro dal Verme, Milan, Italy
24/02/2019 Arenberg, Antwerp, Belgium
13/01/2019 Teatro dal Verme, Milan, Italy
24/02/2019 Arenberg, Antwerp, Belgium
Jer
A window to the west, a blazing star above
“Winds Of Change” and “Spirit Of Joy” were actually B-sides from Tattooed Millionaire, but you’re right about the others.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Winds of Change (1994 version) is a re-recording of the Tattooed Millionaire B-side (expanded with additional lyrics). Spirit of Joy is also a B-side for Tears of the Dragon, a cover of the Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come song with a drum machine thrown in for good measure as a homage to Arthur's pioneering use of one back in the 70s.
Both tracks can be found on CD2 of the Tears of the Dragon single.
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Kalata
Out of the Silent Planet
Like every other time.
Wow, does this book tour will ever end.... I mean, go and finish the album Bruce !
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Jer
A window to the west, a blazing star above
Ah, I didn’t realize there was a re-recording of “Winds Of Change”. “Spirit Of Joy”, you’re right. I thought that was on one of the later Tattooed Millionaire singles, and Google itself said it was from Tattooed Millionaire, but on closer inspection it’s not.
Winds of Change (1994 version) is a re-recording of the Tattooed Millionaire B-side (expanded with additional lyrics). Spirit of Joy is also a B-side for Tears of the Dragon, a cover of the Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come song with a drum machine thrown in for good measure as a homage to Arthur's pioneering use of one back in the 70s.
Both tracks can be found on CD2 of the Tears of the Dragon single.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Are you implying that Roy might not play guitar on The Breeding House ?
Winds of Change is obviously Tattooed Millionnaire era. It was a b-side from TM single:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattooed_Millionaire_(song)
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Well it’s an educated guess. It doesn’t sound like Roy (or the Tribe of Gypsies for that matter) and I’m guessing based on the timeline that it’s the members of Skin playing on the recording.
Edit: Plus those songs were all scrapped. I don’t think anything other than Tears was revisited when Roy got involved.
Edit: Plus those songs were all scrapped. I don’t think anything other than Tears was revisited when Roy got involved.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Why could it not be the same people as on Tears of the Dragon.
Even if it's true (I'm tending to believe it now), I find it very strange that another guitarist was used on a b-side without mentioning that.
If they are not crediting other people, a lot of listeners are obviously going to think it was Roy (and others). Why would they want to make people think like that?
I feel fooled. One of my favourite Bruce songs, and I don't know the fuck who is playing that killer riff at 3:30.
Even if it's true (I'm tending to believe it now), I find it very strange that another guitarist was used on a b-side without mentioning that.
If they are not crediting other people, a lot of listeners are obviously going to think it was Roy (and others). Why would they want to make people think like that?
I feel fooled. One of my favourite Bruce songs, and I don't know the fuck who is playing that killer riff at 3:30.
Always, and why are you telling it now then. Or had you told it before? Wake us up earlier please, next time. You too Ghost.
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John Silver
Electric Buddy
No way out... those are great songs buddy.
John Silver
Electric Buddy
What an album he could have made with those and Original Sin.
Dunno. Had never seen it discussed until now. There are probably uncredited musicians on the Keith Olsen stuff too. I don’t have access to my CDs right now, but I only remember seeing credits for people who played on the album proper. Again, I’m just making a guess here but I don’t think any of the b-sides feature Roy Z or the Tribe.
Probably uncredited musicians on b-sides from other albums as well. Is Janick credited on the Man of Sorrows demo?
The version of Tears that made it onto the album seems to be a hodgepodge of different versions. We know there’s a different drummer than on the rest of the album (that’s credited) and based on demos we can gather that the song went through different revisions before the final form. So Breeding House probably has the same drummer as Tears, but I doubt it was also revisited with Roy if there was no intention of putting it on the album.
I find this period of Bruce’s career really fascinating because of this discussion. There’s a lot we don’t know and probably three albums worth of material that the Balls bonus disc might only scratch the surface of.
Probably uncredited musicians on b-sides from other albums as well. Is Janick credited on the Man of Sorrows demo?
The version of Tears that made it onto the album seems to be a hodgepodge of different versions. We know there’s a different drummer than on the rest of the album (that’s credited) and based on demos we can gather that the song went through different revisions before the final form. So Breeding House probably has the same drummer as Tears, but I doubt it was also revisited with Roy if there was no intention of putting it on the album.
I find this period of Bruce’s career really fascinating because of this discussion. There’s a lot we don’t know and probably three albums worth of material that the Balls bonus disc might only scratch the surface of.
Diesel 11
As you scream into the web of silence...
Wait a minute... does this mean that the TM b-side is the "winds of change, roll over us" quiet one and the BTP b-side is the "WIIIIIIIINDS OF CHAAAANGE ROLL OOOOOVER UUUUSSSSS" loud one? I just assumed the live version from Dive! Dive! Live! was just done... for the concert.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
It sure is mysterious. It is shady, and I don't like that, but now I find it extra interesting to know who are these guys.