Best Album Ever Survivor: Somewhere In Time wins

Vote for your least favourite album


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You raise an interesting point there Foro. Is this forum anglo-saxon biased because we have many english-speaking members? (I think not); Is it because most metal is anglo-saxon (a numbers game)? Or is it because the best metal is anglo-saxon? Or maybe most classic metal of the Maiden-genre hails from an english-speaking country? This leads to related question: are non-anglo saxon bands at a disadvantage simply because of their country of origin? And what about not singing in English? Does that automatically kill your chances of becoming as big as Maiden?
I'm genuinely interested in hearing some opinions here, not being sarcastic or anything.
 
You raise an interesting point there Foro. Is this forum anglo-saxon biased because we have many english-speaking members? (I think not);
I am not sure. Maybe I'd call it influenced. See rest of post.
Is it because most metal is anglo-saxon (a numbers game)?
The language yes, but the bands: no.
Or is it because the best metal is anglo-saxon?
When we look at the top, classic league: Yes, but I'd still say there are other albums, in the English language, but not made in the UK or USA, that did very well. Look at the bill of some European festivals, the running order might give an appropriate picture.
This leads to related question: are non-anglo saxon bands at a disadvantage simply because of their country of origin?
Out here, not 100% sure, but I do tend to say: yes. Most individuals who play this game are no metal-"specialists" and are mainly focused on bigger names or on prog bands. This game is not about (heavy)metal only, but most people are either very selective, either they completely ignore the genre, rather paying attention to forms of prog or glam rock/metal. The bulk of the metal releases is ignored on this forum. I must say that the only member who still follows a lot, is Night Prowler. Actually, he reminds me of myself a while back (now I am more busy with older bands and different genres).
And what about not singing in English? Does that automatically kill your chances of becoming as big as Maiden?
Yes. English is a very universal language when it comes to metal. Although Rammstein is pretty big!

Just my two cents:

The oldschool bands from England and the USA are very known, worldwide, and some of them are very big classic names.

European (hard/prog)rock/metal bands from outside the UK and North America are are not as "classic" and not as much known in the North American media.

I feel that especially in North America lots of European bands (even if they are big in Europe or South America) are still ignored by media.

In this game it comes down to taste, but still, I feel that taste can be influenced (directly or indirectly) by the material that has been available over the years. In continental Europe we've had a living metal scene for years. Also in the pre-internet era. We have always had lots of metal magazines, focusing on both North American and European metal bands. E.g. I heard Helloween 20 years ago, in a time without hundreds of other bands available on YouTube. To an American youngster, Helloween is just one of the discoveries.

In the USA you have classic radio. In Europe too, but I think it has more impact in America.

These aspects must have rooted somewhere, and I think games such as these still suffer a bit from it.

When a band gets airplay, that makes impression on the American! And the bands that get that airplay or that get invited in some American metal show are only from North America, or else they are classic English bands.
Classic, classic, that's what prevails. Fame! Fortune!

Of course we are all individuals and we can all discover music ourselves, but I think these remaining 12 bands (Maiden included) are not representative for what goes on in the world. I mean, if we'd held this game on some European or even worldwide metal forum, I am sure we'd have a few more albums from continental Europe on it.

edit:
Another factor: Grunge. Grunge made people from the UK and North America blind for continuing developments in metal in other (or even their own) countries. And afterwards mostly they mainly focused on old, classic bands. In continental Europe, some metalheads also embraced Grunge, but they did not loose as much contact with metal, as their fellow metalheads overseas. So, I feel that metalheads from continental Europe have been used to relatively more independence, and less influenced by what the radio/TV media tell them.

And seeing a band play is also important. Especially non-classic metal bands really rely on that. Missing a live experience can attribute to having a less complete idea of a band.
Seeing death metal a la Gorefest or God Dethroned live, is really different from hearing an album. Live, I could not only get less annoyed -or even more impressed!- by grunts, but I also felt the power better. Lots of great younger bands have not made it to North America. And even if they went, a gig could have been aeons away from where somebody lived. Here, in Europe, especially western Europe, it's easier to catch a gig of a metal band you'd like to see one day. So, classic acts (which are often from the UK or North America) have an advantage in North America, since they are seen live more often than continental European bands.
 
Seeing an album like Wish You Were Here is gone, I'm gonna switch the killzone mode on.

Holy Diver
Last in Line
Tyranny of Souls
Iron Maiden
Killers
A Night at the Opera
Paranoid
Appetite for Destruction
British Steel
Screaming for Vengeance
 
Yeah, just remembered that. :D Take out A Night at the Opera, Screaming for Vengeance, Appetite for Destruction, Paranoid.
 
Interesting that Iron Maiden had the most votes.

Puppets
Paranoid
Rust
Appetite
Steel
Defenders

Really tough round
 
  1. Master of Puppets — Metallica
  2. A Night At the Opera — Queen
  3. Permanent Waves — Rush
  4. Rising — Rainbow
  5. Rust In Peace — Megadeth
  6. Appetite For Destruction — Guns and Roses
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If we add the upcoming Maiden albums (8 still need to join the game): in the last 30 albums we're having at this moment:

10 Maiden albums:
8 Maiden w/Bruce albums (all 1980s + BNW, AMOLAD & TFF)
1 Maiden w/Di'Anno album (Killers)
1 Maiden w/Blaze album (The X-Factor)

20 non-Maiden albums, represented by 11 different acts.
Band with 6 albums:
Painkiller — Judas Priest
Sad Wings of Destiny — Judas Priest
Screaming for Vengeance — Judas Priest
Sin After Sin — Judas Priest
British Steel — Judas Priest
Defenders of the Faith — Judas Priest

Bands with 2 albums:
Chemical Wedding — Bruce Dickinson
Accident of Birth — Bruce Dickinson
Paranoid — Black Sabbath
Heaven and Hell — Black Sabbath
Moving Pictures — Rush
Permanent Waves - Rush
Master of Puppets — Metallica
Ride the Lightning — Metallica

Bands with 1 album
Last in Line — Dio
A Night At the Opera — Queen
Operation Mindcrime — Queensryche
Rising — Rainbow
Rust In Peace — Megadeth
Appetite For Destruction — Guns and Roses
 
Rules are here:
http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/best-album-ever-survivor.25528/

Eliminated last round: Rust in Peace, Master of Puppets

This is it, our 28 favourite albums ever, as voted by a consensus of Maidenfans voters.
Will the eight final entries all finish in the top 10?
I don't think so, but it is a possibility.

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I'm okay with the top 28. All are favorites of mine except Defenders.

Last In Line
Paranoid
Appetite
British Steel
Defenders
Final Frontier

Voting for TFF was tough, I'm not even sure if it's my least favorite of the Maiden albums left. Maybe I love these Maiden albums too much :D
 
@Mckindog: I like how you put The Last in Line as the first in line! :)
  1. A Night At the Opera — Queen
  2. Operation Mindcrime — Queensryche
  3. Paranoid — Black Sabbath
  4. Permanent Waves — Rush
  5. Rising — Rainbow
  6. Appetite For Destruction — Guns and Roses
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In the last 28 albums we're having:

10 Maiden albums:
8 Maiden w/Bruce albums (all 1980s + BNW, AMOLAD & TFF)
1 Maiden w/Di'Anno album (Killers)
1 Maiden w/Blaze album (The X-Factor)

18 non-Maiden albums, represented by 10 different acts.
Band with 6 albums:
Painkiller — Judas Priest
Sad Wings of Destiny — Judas Priest
Screaming for Vengeance — Judas Priest
Sin After Sin — Judas Priest
British Steel — Judas Priest
Defenders of the Faith — Judas Priest

Bands with 2 albums:
Chemical Wedding — Bruce Dickinson
Accident of Birth — Bruce Dickinson
Paranoid — Black Sabbath
Heaven and Hell — Black Sabbath
Moving Pictures — Rush
Permanent Waves - Rush

Bands with 1 album
Last in Line — Dio
A Night At the Opera — Queen
Operation Mindcrime — Queensryche
Rising — Rainbow
Ride the Lightning — Metallica
Appetite For Destruction — Guns and Roses
 
Killers
Accident of Birth
Chemical Wedding
Operation Mindcrime
Appetite for Destruction
The Final Frontier

Btw, the album is Piece of Mind, not Peace of Mind :P.
 
Last In Line
Accident Of Birth
Paranoid
British Steel
Defenders Of The Faith
The Final Frontier (should have chose Appetite instead)
 
Even though these albums aren't in danger in this round, I'd like to say some words in defense of:

Defenders of the Faith
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Can't say it enough: a fantastic A-side: best from all (metal) albums ever released. The B-side isn't that bad either!"Some Heads! I said some Heads! .... are gonna role!"
*Great riff starts and listener gets dragged into superb vocal and guitar work escapades*

British Steel
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Living After Midnight can be seen as Run to the Hills. Cheesy and overplayed, but the other single Breaking the Law has kick ass, melodic guitar riffs. All the other songs are very good as well. The Rage is a great mellow moment with one of the ultra rare bass intros and Steeler and You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise are riffs feasts. Even if these two are a bit repetitive, it's the groove that keeps it exciting. Rapid Fire is an unbeatable speed metal track, and Grinder and Metal Gods are headbangers of the highest level with great solos.
The simple but very well sounding, punchy drums are -subconciously(?)- a great asset. During the whole album one keeps nodding along with the rhythms.

Both these albums are IMO better than Screaming for Vengeance, which has its moments but also contains the boring and unimaginative Bloodstone (dull, monotone chorus!) and Pain and Pleasure.

For the rest I'd like to state that I find it sad to see The Last in Line going so soon.
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Ah well, at least it goes after Holy Diver.
 
Last in Line stayed too long.

I don't see the big deal with British Steel. It's an album filled with boring songs except for Breaking the Law and maybe Rapid Fire.
 
What's boring about Metal Gods? What's boring about the excellent performance of Halford in The Rage? The rage can even be felt in his singing. What's boring about the riffing in Grinder?
 
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