Any Ideas On A New Album

Forostar said:
You really think low of metal fans or maybe even metal itself. What excites you to be here then?
Either you think we are very exceptional, either you must realize that you're dead wrong, either we are very close minded.

Metalfans are usually very open minded and laid back, with relatively seen hardly any trouble at concerts and festivals.

I know of several metalfans who also (later at some point) checked other genres such as jazz or classical music.
I yet still have to meet the first jazz fan or classical music fan who later got into metal.
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There are so many metal fans that diss classical music, jazz, blues and stuff like that, labelling them boring. I've met some of them in my day. But I have friends that got into metal after being a classical music fan. I even have a pianist friend who was playing classical music became a metal fan with my encouragement. He's also playing keyboards at the moment.

This forum's members are very exceptional, yeah. I'm talking about open-mindedness in regards to music, laid backness has nothing to with it anyway.
 
I'm often quite confused by tags e.g. "Heavy Metal" & have always had a very narrow view of what Metal/Heavy Metal is. While ignoring Nicko's drums & Bruce's singing (because they can certainly be classified as Heavy Metal, I suppose) --I've always viewed Maiden's guitars (all of them, including Steve) as pretty un-Metal. Therefore, overall, I view "Metal" as a pretty poor fit for Maiden. The classic divide, for me, has always been Zep (Rock) & Sabbath (Heavy Metal). All this nonsense inbetween, for those who use them, are often meaningless/confusing to others; & those who use them should realise this.

Metallica/Megadeth: haven't listened to anything new by either of them. Saw both in the early nineties & they both rocked. Saw Megadeth again in 2006 (over 10 years later) & thought they were outstanding.

Don't really know enough people who give a damn about Metal or Rock. Although one thing I have learned from this forum --& that is, that some, have pretty broad musical interests. But surprisingly (or not when you think about it) some quite (very even) light (?) Rock leaning. I mean, I haven't really listened to much Rush for example; but they're pretty 80's rock, & not that heavy. Interesting...
 
My first day of rock n' roll history class, I was asked what my favorite band was, what their genre is, and one word to describe them. I said, "Iron Maiden, I suppose metal even though they've gotten kinda proggy lately, atmospheric," and my professor told me I was wrong because they're not atmospheric and they're not metal -- they're heavy metal. :rolleyes:
 
Music evolves. Iron Maiden were an incredibly heavy band for the years they came out, they now sound a lot lighter than most bands. They're heavy metal in the old sense, but they certainly are not in the new sense. They never intended to be called "heavy metal" anyway. Good bands have always come from mixing or creating various styles and being original, Iron Maiden is an example of it.

I think you can enjoy every single genre of music. (well, almost) That's entertainment after all. For example, if I hear an horrific song by a horrific artist, I can enjoy it. I'd pity it, have a laugh at it and be done with it. I actually spend more time listening to horrific songs than the type of music I love, just to have a laugh. You can see me listening to stupid latin Reggaeton songs, stupid Turkish pop with hysterically horrible lyrics. I even memorize the lyrics of those songs and sing along with them, or dance with them. :D

I'd say that I'd prefer listening to Baby by Justin Bieber, rather than listening to an ultra-brutal porngrind song with ultra-brutal vocals and absurdly heavy (?) riffs. At least I could have a laugh at it rather than raping my ears.

You can find good music in every genre and that is not going to change. It's a matter of possibilities I guess. It's more possible in progressive rock for me to find good music than say, RnB.
 
Kill Devil Hill said:
My first day of rock n' roll history class, I was asked what my favorite band was, what their genre is, and one word to describe them. I said, "Iron Maiden, I suppose metal even though they've gotten kinda proggy lately, atmospheric," and my professor told me I was wrong because they're not atmospheric and they're not metal -- they're heavy metal. :rolleyes:
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Prof sounds like a douche. Plus, didn't he ask you to describe it in "one word"?! And, what college teaches rock'n'roll history anyway (you're in SoCal, right)? How does one become qualified to teach it? Maybe I'll apply to be a guest lecturer. My advice: drop the course -- take physics and econ, and watch VH1 Classic in your free time, instead.
 
Cornfed Hick said:
Prof sounds like a douche. Plus, didn't he ask you to describe it in "one word"?! And, what college teaches rock'n'roll history anyway (you're in SoCal, right)? How does one become qualified to teach it? Maybe I'll apply to be a guest lecturer. My advice: drop the course -- take physics and econ, and watch VH1 Classic in your free time, instead.
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It's a little too late to drop, and I do like the class itself (though my professor is a bit of a douche). I was wondering that myself. I'd love to have his job for him. I think a rock n' roll history professor is probably the best job ever now that I think about it. We spend an hour each class listening to his favorite band, Radiohead.

Though I must admit that I find it funny that he dubs himself the "heavy metal expert," but he didn't know until he overheard me talking to someone that Judas Priest covered Diamonds and Rust. And he asked me if Sin After Sin was their first album.

Off the top of my head, I know Fullerton and Cypress community colleges teach it, and I think CSUF and CSULB. It counts as a history class.

Whoop. Sorry for the random rant.
 
I still refuse to believe that in general metal fans have -relatively seen- a narrow minded view on music.
So at this point, I take that Flash's experiences are solely based on the few metalheads he knows from Turkey.
 
Forostar said:
I still refuse to believe that in general metal fans have -relatively seen- a narrow minded view on music.
So at this point, I take that Flash's experiences are solely based on the few metalheads he knows from Turkey.
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Or maybe he's just scrolled down and read the comments on ever metal video. :p

To be fair, although metal videos do have the worst comments, comments under anything (video, article) make me lose faith in humanity.
 
Kill Devil Hill said:
Though I must admit that I find it funny that he dubs himself the "heavy metal expert," but he didn't know until he overheard me talking to someone that Judas Priest covered Diamonds and Rust. And he asked me if Sin After Sin was their first album.
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Egads.

I seem to have taken this thread a bit off-topic. My apologies. Go back to speculating about what the next album will be. By the way, I'm not sure why Flash says that Maiden "never intended" to be a "heavy metal" band -- that's exactly what they intended to be. In London in the late 70s, there was a whole heavy metal scene, which was intended to be a counterpart to the punk scene that was dominant at the time. Maiden deliberately made themselves a part of that scene, played the heavy metal-centric clubs, got their demos played at the Soundhouse, etc.

EDIT: Sorry, Kill Devil Hill, but "Red Solo Cup" is fan-freakin'-tastic.
 
@KDHill: On internet, a comment from an unknown person can't always tell what kind of music (s)he really likes.
@Flash, I guess you also based your conclusions on the people you met? How many concerts did you experience?
If I remember well you haven't been the biggest fan of concerts. So how did you get to your conclusions?
A handful of schoolkids who own 3 metal albums and call themselves a metalhead, bashing a Rush videoclip?
 
Kill Devil Hill said:
Or maybe he's just scrolled down and read the comments on ever metal video. :p
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Absolutely this, my observations are based on the Internet. (not just comments on a video though :p) I can never communicate with enough metalheads to come up with a huge suggestion like this.

@ Cornfed - I know about all of that but the band's sound wasn't intended to be heavy metal. I'm sure I've seen a video where Steve talks about this matter, could again be the Early Days documentary.
 
And also stuff like "This is boring as hell, listen to Metallica for good music" on a video of a piece by Mozart. :p
 
Kill Devil Hill said:
Well, when the comments say, "Metal is real music. Send Justin Bieber back and bring us Dimebag," I think it's pretty clear. :p
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Those are a couple of (often young) fools. Most people who grow older are getting more open to different styles of music. Bieber is really an extreme sort to be open to. I wouldn't call comments on him very representative.
I realize that some of you are also teenagers and there are lots of people like you who don't comment at all on YouTube videos. Actually, I believe that most people (from any age) don't comment on videos.
Since we haven't met them, we can't say they are close minded too.
 
Not all of them are teenagers but still, metal is a genre of rebellion. Who are the most natural rebels in the world ? Teenagers. I'm pretty damn sure most of the metalheads around are teenagers anyway, causing a misunderstanding around non-metal listeners that metal is a genre of immaturity.
 
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