2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil

Forostar said:
If they are mentally up to it, I think Chile could kick Brazil out of the tournament.
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When Brazil couldn't even beat Mexico I had a feeling they're not winning the World Cup. So yes Chile can beat them. Lets hope for no bullshit penalty call that will ruin it for Chile.
Colombia will win too. But I do feel sorry for Saurez. Yes he's got some serious issues. I wonder if he had childhood trauma that made him bite whenever he felt threatened and that's his way of lashing out. What a great talent, but what a shame. I hope he gets his head straight and manages to have a good season when he comes back
 
Quite good reaction from one that was bitten, if you ask me. Respect (from him and) to him.

http://giorgiochiellini.com/site/newsdetail/Eng/My-words-after-Italia-Uruguay.html
Now inside me there's no feelings of joy, revenge or anger against Suarez for an incident that happened on the pitch and that's done. There only remain the anger and the disappointment about the match.

At the moment my only thought is for Luis and his family, because they will face a very difficult period.

I have always considered unequivocal the disciplinary interventions by the competent bodies, but at the same time I believe that the proposed formula is excessive. I sincerely hope that he will be allowed, at least, to stay close to his team mates during the games because such a ban is really alienating for a player.
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I have to agree with Chiellini. I think it's too harsh to ban Suarez from training. Banned from playing? OK. But banned from training and from attending matches? That's not fair.
 
Yeah, sorry. He didn't say that. I'm just a bit annoyed by this "his biting is a cry for help" attitude.
 
Meh, no sympathy for the Chomper. I'd ban him for 6 months. Injuring players using arms/legs is bad, but you use both to play football; you don't use your teeth though.
 
Perun said:
Yeah, sorry. He didn't say that. I'm just a bit annoyed by this "his biting is a cry for help" attitude.
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Although I sometimes laugh at the Suarez memes, I do feel sorry for him. And the public ridicule can get really mean. Did he bring it upon himself yes. But I can also feel bad for him too
 
There were many many broken legs from sliding tackles in the history of football. How many players were bitten by their opponents?

What's more mental: a friend punching you in the arm or biting your arm?
 
I won't deny the fact that we have seen occasional instances of players maliciously attacking opponents with the obvious intention to cause harm. But can you name one such player who repeatedly did that? Three times?
 
Forostar said:
Rather than stats, or what is more mental, I find it better to compare impact on the victim.
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Eh. Only if we're guaranteed to compare the intentional breaking of another player's legs to the intentional biting of another player's shoulder. If one of these was unintentional in the sense that it was a complete accident, I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.
 
Ariana, That's another way of looking at it. Repetition is why he has a hard punishment indeed. I can't mention someone like that by heart, but I don't think it's unlikely that there is someone out there. Intentional breaking of legs is more accepted because it "belongs" with football. :nuts2:

Perun said:
Eh. Only if we're guaranteed to compare the intentional breaking of another player's legs to the intentional biting of another player's shoulder. If one of these was unintentional in the sense that it was a complete accident, I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.
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If it was unintentional, then indeed.

Watching this hurts already, even with the sound off. Disgusting stuff:

What bothers me a bit is that with FIFA (but also FA or other football associations) the rules for punishments come across as more arbitrary than transparent.
 
One example: Pepe. He intentionally kicked a player in the head and served a 8 match ban. He intentionally stepped on Lionel Messi's hand. He intentionally backheeled a Celta Vigo player in the crotch. Hasn't been banned from football at all.

I'm absolutely sure that the strictness of Suarez's punishment is caused by media pressure. Not saying he shouldn't be punished, but his punishment is not the standard. And it will not be the standard, ever.
 
I do think it was because he had already bitten players twice before, that he deserved a harsh, and above average punishment this time around. Also, I'd imagine it would be quite difficult to prove that someone had intentionally broken an opponent's leg, as opposed to breaking it by accident. There's no way you can bite someone accidentally, so the case is much more clear cut. Though yes, intentionally trying to break an opponent's leg is worse than biting someone's shoulder.
 
Forostar said:
Ariana, That's another way of looking at it. Repetition is why he has a hard punishment indeed. I can't mention someone like that by heart, but I don't think it's unlikely that there is someone out there. Intentional breaking of legs is more accepted because it "belongs" with football. :nuts2:
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I'm not saying it's acceptable. Foul play has to be punished. But it's more difficult to prove that a kick was intentional indeed, because it happens during the regular course of the game. But you can't bite somebody by accident. From behind.

The Flash said:
One example: Pepe. He intentionally kicked a player in the head and served a 8 match ban. He intentionally stepped on Lionel Messi's hand. He intentionally backheeled a Celta Vigo player in the crotch. Hasn't been banned from football at all.
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Agreed. There are also other "dirty" players that do that often. But we were talking about causing mid-term or long-term trauma, or even putting an end to somebody's career.
 
Isn't kicking someone in the head much more dangerous than biting someone on the shoulder?

We've all seen much more dangerous acts than a bite on football fields. I think the bite is so "unnatural" to the game of football that its actual consequences are a bit overblown.
 
The Flash said:
One example: Pepe. He intentionally kicked a player in the head and served a 8 match ban. He intentionally stepped on Lionel Messi's hand. He intentionally backheeled a Celta Vigo player in the crotch. Hasn't been banned from football at all.

I'm absolutely sure that the strictness of Suarez's punishment is caused by media pressure. Not saying he shouldn't be punished, but his punishment is not the standard. And it will not be the standard, ever.
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Yep, again... intentionally kicking an opposing player in the head is worse than biting their shoulder, and Pepe should have served a harsher ban for that the one he was given. As for Suarez... I think the punishment is warranted, as it's the third time he's done it, however, doing those things you mentioned by Pepe should carry a punishment at least AS severe, if not even more so.
 
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