18th Studio Album discussion

In the latest Fan Club magazine, Steve says he thought a couple of songs in the current setlist -- "not naming any names" -- could have been rested. Until he saw the visuals and agreed otherwise! I think he means Aces High ...

I am starting to think the band has made a very sensible calculation. Illness could at any moment force a total end to their world touring career, but not necessarily to recording. As they reach 68, 69 and 70 years of age, they want to cram in one more year of high revenue, world conquering touring, in the realisation they may never do another one.

Whereas if they wanted to record a new album, that isn't going anywhere as an option.
 
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
In the latest Fan Club magazine, Steve says he thought a couple of songs in the current setlist -- "not naming any names" -- could have been rested. Until he saw the visuals and agreed otherwise! I think he means Aces High...
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Most likely Aces yeah, but why a visual should play a bigger role than if the band/Bruce want to play a song live? Just saying, but Infinite Dreams could have a noticeable visuals. It's curious which are the other songs Steve has in mind. Wasted Years?
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
I am starting to think the band has made a very sensible calculation. Illness could at any moment force a total end to their world touring career, but not necessarily to recording. As they reach 68, 69 and 70 years of age, they want to cram in one more year of high revenue, world conquering touring, in the realisation they may never do another one. Whereas if they wanted to record a new album, that isn't going anywhere as an option.
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That's probably true. Also, remember Steve's thought about semi-retirement with new music.
 
Azas said:
And it answers the questions asked on this forum about which band is bigger, Metallica or Iron Maiden.
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Yes, Americans are bigger, but Maiden didn't release radio-friendly albums and songs, and didn't change their music and image to be "trendy". If Metallica didn't change their uncompromising thrash metal for a more fashionable, accessible rock style, they would never be half as big as they became. Maiden is not only another music approach, but a completely different path of their career. Two bands are the biggest in the history of metal anyway.
 
My post does not mean that Metallica is better—just that, objectively (money talks), it’s a much bigger band. Also, both bands are metal bands, so there’s naturally some competitiveness in the minds of certain fans. And yes, Metallica are bigger for the reasons you mentioned. Some (or many) of us may find those reasons unflattering or even despicable, but it’s also true that Metallica play much heavier music than Maiden, and despite that big disadvantage for a general audience, they still managed to become a top band, which is very commendable. There’s undeniable talent in the Metallica guys (just like in Maiden). The first four Metallica albums are great. The fifth one is also monstrous, although it marked the beginning of the changes.

A few days ago I saw a video report saying that Metallica had donated money to help some people achieve their dream jobs or something like that. Say what you want, but for me this aspect of Metallica is admirable and respectable. Because of how big they are, they run a charity and help others. Does Maiden do that on the same scale? No. So there’s no point in shitting on Metallica—they’re legends. And yes, they don’t create legendary albums anymore, but they’re trying and doing what they love (playing live), just like the Maiden boys. Metallica is not the enemy. They’re the advertisers of heavy music to the general audience, some of whom might later discover bands like Maiden, Slayer, or whoever you name.
 
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
In the latest Fan Club magazine, Steve says he thought a couple of songs in the current setlist -- "not naming any names" -- could have been rested. Until he saw the visuals and agreed otherwise! I think he means Aces High ...

I am starting to think the band has made a very sensible calculation. Illness could at any moment force a total end to their world touring career, but not necessarily to recording. As they reach 68, 69 and 70 years of age, they want to cram in one more year of high revenue, world conquering touring, in the realisation they may never do another one.

Whereas if they wanted to record a new album, that isn't going anywhere as an option.
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So, if that's the case, Aces was pushed by Rod to be included in the setlist. We know that Bruce also wasn't too happy about it.
 
Azas said:
My post does not mean that Metallica is better—just that, objectively (money talks), it’s a much bigger band. Also, both bands are metal bands, so there’s naturally some competitiveness in the minds of certain fans. And yes, Metallica are bigger for the reasons you mentioned. Some (or many) of us may find those reasons unflattering or even despicable, but it’s also true that Metallica play much heavier music than Maiden, and despite that big disadvantage for a general audience, they still managed to become a top band, which is very commendable. There’s undeniable talent in the Metallica guys (just like in Maiden). The first four Metallica albums are great. The fifth one is also monstrous, although it marked the beginning of the changes.

A few days ago I saw a video report saying that Metallica had donated money to help some people achieve their dream jobs or something like that. Say what you want, but for me this aspect of Metallica is admirable and respectable. Because of how big they are, they run a charity and help others. Does Maiden do that on the same scale? No. So there’s no point in shitting on Metallica—they’re legends. And yes, they don’t create legendary albums anymore, but they’re trying and doing what they love (playing live), just like the Maiden boys. Metallica is not the enemy. They’re the advertisers of heavy music to the general audience, some of whom might later discover bands like Maiden, Slayer, or whoever you name.
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They play or played music much heavier than maiden when it was famous that music during secodn half of the 80s and the early 90s. Maiden was famous during nwobhw but they kept going with thr maiden sound even when was outdated or tucky. Metallica didnt do that. But yes metallica has millions of fans more than maiden even pepole that are not into metal. But i think the maiden way was harder than metallica.
 
Azas said:
My post does not mean that Metallica is better—just that, objectively (money talks), it’s a much bigger band. Also, both bands are metal bands, so there’s naturally some competitiveness in the minds of certain fans. And yes, Metallica are bigger for the reasons you mentioned. Some (or many) of us may find those reasons unflattering or even despicable, but it’s also true that Metallica play much heavier music than Maiden, and despite that big disadvantage for a general audience, they still managed to become a top band, which is very commendable. There’s undeniable talent in the Metallica guys (just like in Maiden). The first four Metallica albums are great. The fifth one is also monstrous, although it marked the beginning of the changes.

A few days ago I saw a video report saying that Metallica had donated money to help some people achieve their dream jobs or something like that. Say what you want, but for me this aspect of Metallica is admirable and respectable. Because of how big they are, they run a charity and help others. Does Maiden do that on the same scale? No. So there’s no point in shitting on Metallica—they’re legends. And yes, they don’t create legendary albums anymore, but they’re trying and doing what they love (playing live), just like the Maiden boys. Metallica is not the enemy. They’re the advertisers of heavy music to the general audience, some of whom might later discover bands like Maiden, Slayer, or whoever you name.
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Metallica’s charitable efforts are commendable.
 
First night of the tour.

The boys were showering and cooling off in the dressing room when Rod strode in, grinning like a cat with the cream.
“That was a bloody cracking show, lads."
Bruce burst out of the shower—completely naked and furious, like a drenched weasel.
“I told you not to put Aces High on the setlist! Now I look like I’m choking on a flaming garden hose!”
“The show was brilliant, mate. Those visuals during Aces High were absolutely marvellous,” Rod insisted, refusing to stop staring at something that was both dangling and distinctly jangling.
“I don’t see the visuals, do I? My back’s turned to them. And honestly, when I’m trying to belt out Aces High, I’ve not exactly got time to stand there admiring the bloody scenery—thanks to Steve.
“You’re welcome,” Steve said flatly.
“I was being sarcastic.”
“Well, you’d better be a good singer, then,” Steve muttered under his breath.
“WHAT?”
“Nothing.”
“Rod, he’s being Hitler again. Just like in the ‘80s!”
“Oh, pack it in, you two. The show was bloody perfect,” Rod cut in. Then, quite suddenly, he realised he rather fancied a proper plate of pasta at the upcoming dinner—long twiddly noodles wound round a fork, drowning in some thick, creamy sauce.
“Fine,” Steve said, towelling his hair.
“FINE!” Bruce snapped back, still dripping from head to toe—restless, wiry, muscular, hairy, and very visibly both jangling and dangling.
“Right then. We’ll meet in the hotel dining room,” Rod said, and headed out.
“What a tool,” Bruce muttered before storming back into the shower. A moment later came the hiss of running water.
Then—Bruce’s voice, echoing angrily:
“There goes the siren that warns of the air raid,
Then comes the sound of the guns sending flak…”
“That’s the attitude,” Steve approved.
“‘Won’t you run, live to fly,
Fly to live, aces high…’
..Oh, bollocks! Tomorrow Rod can sing this bloody song himself!” Bruce shouted. “I’ll be thrilled to see him enjoying the visuals while attempting the one song that doesn’t let you breathe.”

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dickinson1978 said:
Rank of the most important band touring in 2025. Maiden at rank 19 with all pop bands
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This is an immense accomplishment, a clear indication of the success of the reunion era. Well done to Maiden and to the awesome idea of alternating new album and history tours. For 2.5 decades, it has kept it way more interesting for us fans than the approach of other comparable acts, IMO.
 
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
This is an immense accomplishment, a clear indication of the success of the reunion era. Well done to Maiden and to the awesome idea of alternating new album and history tours. For 2.5 decades, it has kept it way more interesting for us fans than the approach of other comparable acts, IMO.
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Im happy to see them there. As i said before during 90s they were almost gone
 
Azas said:
First night of the tour.

The boys were showering and cooling off in the dressing room when Rod strode in, grinning like a cat with the cream.
“That was a bloody cracking show, lads."
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And you are going to offer that to Iron Maiden's management as a script for a short play that could appear in a ‘Behind the Scenes’ video?
 
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
This is an immense accomplishment, a clear indication of the success of the reunion era. Well done to Maiden and to the awesome idea of alternating new album and history tours. For 2.5 decades, it has kept it way more interesting for us fans than the approach of other comparable acts, IMO.
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That was definitely a great idea. I do not think they would be so huge without those history tours revisiting the 80s. I am also grateful, as it gave those of us who became fans in the early 90s a chance/many chances to hear those songs performed live by the band.
 
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