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I think the problem with Nicko is that accommodating for him will inevitably mean they have to alter their approach in the studio. I don't think Steve wants to do that at all, he'd just prefer to show up, bang the songs together and record them mostly live, maybe in sections for the more tricky stuff and then be done with it. With Nicko they'd likely do songs in parts to get the best takes, probably with just the drums too.
 
Ruflux said:
I think the problem with Nicko is that accommodating for him will inevitably mean they have to alter their approach in the studio. I don't think Steve wants to do that at all, he'd just prefer to show up, bang the songs together and record them mostly live, maybe in sections for the more tricky stuff and then be done with it. With Nicko they'd likely do songs in parts to get the best takes, probably with just the drums too.
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The oficial statment was retired from touring. He has said in public that he wants to do a couple of songs. He plays with his band more than 1h . Sure he can play live 2 songs
 
Let's not forget that going on tour and having to play one-and-a-half hours every other night is very different to recording in the studio. Live the stakes were much higher. In the studio he can take as many breaks as he wants, he can start over if there's a mistake, he can try tricky part over and over, and so on. Those are luxuries that he obviously can't afford on tour. Also, live he had to play thing that he recorded decades earlier, and he wanted to get as close to them as possible. That won't be a factor in the studio, where the drum parts can be written exactly to the playing level he's comfortable with at the moment.

If they want to record with Nicko, there are ways to do that and get pretty good performances out of him still. The question, imo, is: Will Nicko record anything at all? Only a few tracks? Everything?

Given how they're bonding with Simon it would surprise me quite a bit if Simon wouldn't appear at all on any future studio work.
 
Vaenyr said:
Let's not forget that going on tour and having to play one-and-a-half hours every other night is very different to recording in the studio. Live the stakes were much higher. In the studio he can take as many breaks as he wants, he can start over if there's a mistake, he can try tricky part over and over, and so on. Those are luxuries that he obviously can't afford on tour. Also, live he had to play thing that he recorded decades earlier, and he wanted to get as close to them as possible. That won't be a factor in the studio, where the drum parts can be written exactly to the playing level he's comfortable with at the moment.

If they want to record with Nicko, there are ways to do that and get pretty good performances out of him still. The question, imo, is: Will Nicko record anything at all? Only a few tracks? Everything?

Given how they're bonding with Simon it would surprise me quite a bit if Simon wouldn't appear at all on any future studio work.
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Bruce said he would like to record wirh simon too. So why not borh.
 
If they record the next album with Nicko still behind the drums, it'll surely be Iron Maiden's AC/DC album, given his current capabilities.

IRON MAIDEN

From Here to Maternity... Again (working title was From Here to Maternity...Me Too)

I'm not against the idea.
 
Azas said:
If they record the next album with Nicko still behind the drums, it'll surely be Iron Maiden's AC/DC album, given his current capabilities.

IRON MAIDEN

From Here to Maternity... Again (working title was From Here to Maternity...Me Too)

I'm not against the idea.
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I m sure he would be much better in studio and in parts than in tour song after song.
 
dickinson1978 said:
Bruce said he would like to record wirh simon too. So why not borh.
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I wouldn't mind that. But then the question becomes, how do they split duties? Half-half? Does everyone get entire songs or will both be heard on the same track? Do we get one "special" track (like how Journeyman was an all-acoustic song or how Empire Of The Clouds featured the piano) with Nicko on the drums, and the rest is played by Simon?

There's not really an easy answer to all that and they'll have to have some serious discussions about how to approach the next album.
 
Vaenyr said:
I wouldn't mind that. But then the question becomes, how do they split duties? Half-half? Does everyone get entire songs or will both be heard on the same track? Do we get one "special" track (like how Journeyman was an all-acoustic song or how Empire Of The Clouds featured the piano) with Nicko on the drums, and the rest is played by Simon?

There's not really an easy answer to all that and they'll have to have some serious discussions about how to approach the next album.
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Nicko said for a few songs.
 
CA Bryers said:
Yep. If Steve's not feeling up to it, there are enough good songwriters in the band to write the lion's share of the album. It would be fun to imagine a scenario where Adrian ends up with the bulk of the songwriting credits, and we end up with something akin to a reunion-era styled version of Somewhere in Time--not so much sounding like it, but just having Adrian's stamp all over it.
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He wrote 3 songs out of 8 on that record, and the shortest ones. So "stamp all over it" is a bit of an exaggeration.
 
After revisiting Ghost's Skeletá today after a longer break, I was left with very conflicting emotions.

On one hand, it confirmed my belief that this is genuinely one of the very best melodic metal albums of the last decade or so. On the other, it rekindled my frustration - perhaps even bitterness - towards Maiden.

Because, surprise, surprise: it's still perfectly possible to achieve great-sounding production nowadays.

And I'm not talking about the "sterile, robotic type" of production that people often criticize Andy Sneap and many modern metal albums for. The production on Skeletá is fantastic and, imo, perfectly capable of standing alongside the classic '80s Maiden albums in terms of clarity, warmth, and punch.

Steve's stubbornness is truly a double-edged sword. It's one of the traits that made Maiden what they are, but in the latter part of their career, there's been a bit too much rust on the edge that's being used.

My only hope now is Bruce's upcoming solo album. Knowing that he was at a Ghost concert, perhaps he came away with a few ideas - maybe even about songwriting and album production.

#ALBUMPRODUCTIONSTILLMATTERS
 
Azas said:
After revisiting Ghost's Skeletá today after a longer break, I was left with very conflicting emotions.

On one hand, it confirmed my belief that this is genuinely one of the very best melodic metal albums of the last decade or so. On the other, it rekindled my frustration - perhaps even bitterness - towards Maiden.

Because, surprise, surprise: it's still perfectly possible to achieve great-sounding production nowadays.

And I'm not talking about the "sterile, robotic type" of production that people often criticize Andy Sneap and many modern metal albums for. The production on Skeletá is fantastic and, imo, perfectly capable of standing alongside the classic '80s Maiden albums in terms of clarity, warmth, and punch.

Steve's stubbornness is truly a double-edged sword. It's one of the traits that made Maiden what they are, but in the latter part of their career, there's been a bit too much rust on the edge that's being used.

My only hope now is Bruce's upcoming solo album. Knowing that he was at a Ghost concert, perhaps he came away with a few ideas - maybe even about songwriting and album production.

#ALBUMPRODUCTIONSTILLMATTERS
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Im not sure if steve is rhe only one that is stubborn there. In setlist,in terms of recording. But he has changed a lot since reunion
 
harrisdevot said:
He wrote 3 songs out of 8 on that record, and the shortest ones. So "stamp all over it" is a bit of an exaggeration.
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Adrian may have ‘only’ solely written 3 of the 8 tracks, but 2 of those were the two singles from the album.
Also, by all accounts, Adrian was quite involved with working alongside Birch on the production of the album.
So, I think it is not an exaggeration to say that Adrian was all over the record.
Also, not an unreasonable speculation as to why that is probably the best sonically sounding of the bands album, imo.
 
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