News 18th Studio Album discussion

matic22 said:
And this is where the other members come into play. I think some of them (particulary Dave and maybe Janick) accepted the extensive 2026 tour dates, if Maiden activity is very limited next year (let's say 3 months at max). That's where the "no shows in 2027" comes from. Adrian is pretty neutral in this situation, I think. Simon is a paid employee. That's where Steve's frustration comes from. He was likely outvoted by Bruce, Dave and Janick (I think Bruce also wants 9 months without Maiden activity, so he can do his solo stuff).

Now, what can they do with those 3 months? That's where I think Bruce and Steve have different priorities. Realistically, you can do 3 weeks of rehearsals and 6 weeks of shows, which is basically a short summer Euro run. But is that good for business? Probably not, since they milked Europe dry in last 2 years.

Now, what could they do to compensate and make both parties happy? They can. I think they can record an album in 2 months and then do 6-8 show residency at the O2, where you can do some special things, like playing 7th Son in full or maybe even play with an orchestra. With screens, production is much cheaper and doing all shows in one arena opens up some possibilities to some additional things like full arena production. Plus, doing shows in the same place would relieve them from the grueling part of the touring: the travel.

I think a vote is due in the Maiden camp, some time during the 2026 tour. And after that, Bruce will likely start dropping hints at the end of the shows.
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The situation has evolved significantly over the past few weeks, and it's exciting to follow it through the interviews and Bruce's hints. Whatever happens, Maiden will be doing something in 2027.
 
matic22 said:
I think they can record an album in 2 months and then do 6-8 show residency at the O2, where you can do some special things, like playing 7th Son in full or maybe even play with an orchestra. With screens, production is much cheaper and doing all shows in one arena opens up some possibilities to some additional things like full arena production. Plus, doing shows in the same place would relieve them from the grueling part of the touring: the travel.
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If Maiden actually did some shows like this, I think that would be the most surprising thing they have ever done since I started following the band, I just can't see them playing live outside of the context of a major, themed tour.
 
UpTheIrons said:
If Maiden actually did some shows like this, I think that would be the most surprising thing they have ever done since I started following the band, I just can't see them playing live outside of the context of a major, themed tour.
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Well, they played Alexander The Neverplayed, they brought Infinite Dreams back... I think anything could happen at this point.
 
matic22 said:
Well, they played Alexander The Neverplayed, they brought Infinite Dreams back... I think anything could happen at this point.
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OMG! At last, we're going to get a round stage from Maiden - just like Metallica. And six completely different setlists, Rush-style.

Dave will start dancing an Irish jig during the shows. Adrian will spend the entire concert grinning like the Cheshire Cat. Janick will begin dressing as if he's a high-end fashion designer.

I mean, good times!

Can you believe it? Can you believe your eyes?

It's the real thing, punk. Yeah!
 
Regarding the post-reunion short rockers, I personally rate Death or Glory as a very good - perhaps even great - song. I’ve always had a soft spot for it. It may not be better than The Wicker Man, but it’s not very far behind. It’s a great cruising-type rocker.

To me, it’s a hundred times better than Wildest Dreams.

As for Rainmaker, Different World, and Stratego (which I also like), I don’t think they’re bad songs in any way. However, I find them a little too mellow to classify as true rockers. I perceive Rainmaker and Stratego more as dreamy short songs - songs sung by seers and prophets, if that makes any sense.

Death or Glory, on the other hand, has at least a touch of the attitude and swagger that a rocker needs. There’s a bit more bite and emotion to it.
 
dickinson1978 said:
If eternity should fail is a good opener but its not a short rocker,stratego is a very good short rocker but like the old galloping not a straight rocker. Final frontier, meh i preffer it than wildest dreams and different world but far from a good short rocker. They have soft them since dance of death. I miss one song like this but stratego was a great surprise . I doubt if they record and album they do a short agresive rocker maybe if bruce adrian and janick do one but steve is writting on his mode more than ever.
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I meant Death Or Glory (which is okay) and Speed Of Light (one of my most hated Maiden songs, I reeeeally dislike that one). Stratego and Days Of Future Past, while not super short, are phenomenal songs imo.
 
Vaenyr said:
I meant Death Or Glory (which is okay) and Speed Of Light (one of my most hated Maiden songs, I reeeeally dislike that one). Stratego and Days Of Future Past, while not super short, are phenomenal songs imo.
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«Stratego» is a killer by my book. One of the best examples of the sophisticated efficacy the reunion lineup had achieved.
 
Austrogoth said:
The situation has evolved significantly over the past few weeks, and it's exciting to follow it through the interviews and Bruce's hints. Whatever happens, Maiden will be doing something in 2027.
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I agree that 2027 will be a year with activity from Maiden.
But I don’t believe this is something that just came about recently.
I think all of this was discussed and agreed upon a long time ago, including a plan to first announce zero activity in 2027 to boost ticket sales, and then gradually reverse that decision just for the public step by step.

That’s why, in my opinion, the statements about 2027 being a year off in the band members’ interviews were so strange and illogical.
 
Helmuth Von Moltke said:
I don’t get it. I’ve never heard Steve so unfocused on making new music with Maiden. I really don’t understand what’s holding his enthusiasm back. Aside from ‘every gig is sacred’ etc
Glad Bruce is driving the new music argument.
Very weird state of affairs, overall. I can’t think back to another time Steve has held this view?
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Yeah, it's not like with new album the tour won't be interesting (what they could do without it? they need a theme... Reunion themed tour, hybrid, 90s/rare stuff, album anniv... the ideas aren't that many) and with different things. They just need 3-4 classics (including Iron Maiden). And why would he want more RFYL shows after a long 2nd leg (with more changes, that would be surprising; what, promo a new single with a few dates??). At least Bruce is enthusiastic about new music. Adrian probably is too, Dave writes a little, Janick shouldn't have a problem (this tour is with less action for him), and Simon would be happy to record with the band. Writing and recording for 2-3 months from the year is not like a 3 month tour. It seems Bruce and maybe Dave want the break next year, dunno about Janick, even Adrian. Idk, maybe Steve is less enthusiastic because Nicko won't be part of the whole album (if at all), or maybe he feels more and more pressure with each new album, he thought SJ could be their last.
 
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Kalata said:
Yeah, it's not like with new album the tour won't be interesting (what they could do without it? Reunion themed tour, hybrid, 90s/rare stuff, album anniv... the ideas aren't that many) and with different things. They just need 3-4 classics (including Iron Maiden). And why would he want more RFYL shows after a long 2nd leg (with more changes, that would be surprising). At least Bruce is enthusiastic about new music. Adrian probably is too, Dave writes a little, Janick shouldn't have a problem (this tour is with less action for him), and Simon would be happy to record with the band. Writing and recording for 3 months from the year is not like a 3 month tour. It seems Bruce and maybe Dave want the break next year, dunno about Janick, even Adrian. Idk, maybe Steve is less enthusiastic because Nicko won't be part of the whole album (if at all), or maybe he feels more and more pressure with each new album.
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3 months? Im not sure if they spent 3 months at the studio anymore

Btw its there any info of the time they spent for the recording of each album? I would love to see the difference
 
Hmm, one possible reason why Steve doesn't seem too eager to record a new album may be the change behind the drums. I think he and Nicko had reached a very comfortable creative place after decades of playing together—the rhythm section was locked in.

Having nothing against Simon, perhaps Steve is simply a little uncertain about the process. British Lion is still not Maiden, after all. Psychologically, it might be difficult to cross the Rubicon and start writing new Maiden material without his long-time rhythm section partner.

Just a thought. I'm pretty sure Steve will overcome it, and we will finally get the first Balls to the Wall album in many years.
 
Kalata said:
Yeah, it's not like with new album the tour won't be interesting (what they could do without it? they need a theme... Reunion themed tour, hybrid, 90s/rare stuff, album anniv... the ideas aren't that many) and with different things. They just need 3-4 classics (including Iron Maiden). And why would he want more RFYL shows after a long 2nd leg (with more changes, that would be surprising; what, promo a new single with a few dates??). At least Bruce is enthusiastic about new music. Adrian probably is too, Dave writes a little, Janick shouldn't have a problem (this tour is with less action for him), and Simon would be happy to record with the band. Writing and recording for 2-3 months from the year is not like a 3 month tour. It seems Bruce and maybe Dave want the break next year, dunno about Janick, even Adrian. Idk, maybe Steve is less enthusiastic because Nicko won't be part of the whole album (if at all), or maybe he feels more and more pressure with each new album, he thought SJ could be their last.
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Agree. Just would change that I don't think he thought SJ would be their last, but maybe he feels new album wouldn't be as well as received, cause SJ got real well. But trust me, mainstream media and magazines would make new album even more successful than SJ, especially after 6 year wait again.
 
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