18th Studio Album discussion

Cat Milk Supreme said:
I think this is a fair point. Take those 2yrs out of it and assume they are gonna record next year then they are followin the basic pattern over the last 20yrs.

Re Davey, I really want a career defining banger from him, I love his input. When it's good. Breeg, Thin Line, BNW, delicious stuff. But when it's not to my liking its usually the worst song on the album. I'm lookin at you Nomad, Age of Innocence, Man of Sorrows.

Re some point some guy made about stopping after LOTB 2019, pffffft, good lord, man, such poppycock. It was a career highlight fo sho but I've very much enjoyed the subsequent tours. Hell on Earth, Alexander, Caught Somewhere in Time, Rime, Killers, 7th Son, tip top capers from East Londons finest. We've had lots of Maiden and honestly, I'd trade it all for a little more.

Although that explosive plunger on Run to the Hills on the Legacy tour was frankly embarrassing. I could do without that kinda shit ever again.
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I think steve words its like first the tour then we will see. I dont see them touring like 6 or 7 year 2 or 3 tours only with historic or hits or not hits but old songs tour. I dont see that.
 
Blood On The World´s Hand said:
While the decision not to tour in 2027 is extremely surprising given that they already missed 2020 and 2021, it couldn´t be more plainly obvious that they dedicate some part of the year to making the 18th and most likely final album. It´ll be probably out early 2028 and tour starts the same spring.
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I dont see them after touring future past tour run for your lives tour tour another hits or deep cuts without new music
 
argyris said:
Steve Harris is saying '" i dont have time " for a new Maiden record ...okayy... I lived enough to see this ....And for what exactly you have time Mr Harris ??? F***ing British Lion ???? Or another cabaret tour playing Again the same old songs ?? I really dont like steve harris anymore...he s a changed man from 2012 and getting worse day by day
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You get he doesn't exist to please you, right? I mean, maybe you could look at it a different way, that perhaps Steve has earned the right to do whatever he wants after all these years.

I can't believe I'm lucky enough to still have Maiden in my life at all after all these years. Maybe try a healthier outlook?
 
weebaggy said:
perhaps Steve has earned the right to do whatever he wants after all these years.

I can't believe I'm lucky enough to still have Maiden in my life at all after all these years.
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This is a great take on it and i feel the same about it in 2025.

Maiden & Rod have nothing to prove to anyone anymore even if there will always be people online who know best.

They have done it all and set the bar so high as the best Metal band ever that if they record or not or tour what ever they want it`s their call. If you like it buy it or go watch and if you don`t like it stay home.
 
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Fozzie said:
This is a great take on it and i feel the same about it in 2025.

Maiden & Rod have nothing to prove to anyone anymore even if their will always be people online who know best.

They have done it all and set the bar so high as the best Metal band ever that if they record or not or tour what ever they want it`s their call. If you like it buy it or go watch and if you don`t like it stay home.
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But they have always be like that, even in the 80s. So, no one who is serious don't tell they have sold out to be trendy, public pleasing sunny boys as many others bands were or are.
 
weebaggy said:
You get he doesn't exist to please you, right? I mean, maybe you could look at it a different way, that perhaps Steve has earned the right to do whatever he wants after all these years.

I can't believe I'm lucky enough to still have Maiden in my life at all after all these years. Maybe try a healthier outlook?
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Maiden do not owe us any new albums and, as you say, they have earned the right to do whatever they want (and we can always decide to either embrace it or not).
 
While I can see the point of the "you're an entitled fan, they don't owe us another album" angle, I also think it is a bit simplistic and dismissive.

None of us here are friends or family with Steve and the boys (as far as I know lol). Every single one of us is here because we enjoy consuming the art Maiden has produced over the years. Music is art, but it's also a product. While it is true that they don't owe us another album, it is fair for fans to ask for more music. It's what we're here for after all.

Now, if someone goes and harasses any of the band members, that's obviously not okay and should be called out. But posting on a fan board that we'd like them to write more music should be fair game, no? Steve can give his explanations and reasons for why he's not actively planing writing for a new album (if we take every word as gospel and ignore the possibilities of NDAs for example) and the fans can scrutinize those reasons if they want. Because these fans are also consumers.
 
Vaenyr said:
While I can see the point of the "you're an entitled fan, they don't owe us another album" angle, I also think it is a bit simplistic and dismissive.

None of us here are friends or family with Steve and the boys (as far as I know lol). Every single one of us is here because we enjoy consuming the art Maiden has produced over the years. Music is art, but it's also a product. While it is true that they don't owe us another album, it is fair for fans to ask for more music. It's what we're here for after all.

Now, if someone goes and harasses any of the band members, that's obviously not okay and should be called out. But posting on a fan board that we'd like them to write more music should be fair game, no? Steve can give his explanations and reasons for why he's not actively planing writing for a new album (if we take every word as gospel and ignore the possibilities of NDAs for example) and the fans can scrutinize those reasons if they want. Because these fans are also consumers.
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Not every customer wants the same thing from the brand: some value the live shows, some favour the T-shirts, some would buy anything with Eddie on it, and some would even purchase a CD of new music.

At the end of the day, it is up to Steve to decide what type of product we get.
 
Vaenyr said:
While I can see the point of the "you're an entitled fan, they don't owe us another album" angle, I also think it is a bit simplistic and dismissive.

None of us here are friends or family with Steve and the boys (as far as I know lol). Every single one of us is here because we enjoy consuming the art Maiden has produced over the years. Music is art, but it's also a product. While it is true that they don't owe us another album, it is fair for fans to ask for more music. It's what we're here for after all.

Now, if someone goes and harasses any of the band members, that's obviously not okay and should be called out. But posting on a fan board that we'd like them to write more music should be fair game, no? Steve can give his explanations and reasons for why he's not actively planing writing for a new album (if we take every word as gospel and ignore the possibilities of NDAs for example) and the fans can scrutinize those reasons if they want. Because these fans are also consumers.
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They dont owe us nothing after 50 years. But if there is no new studio album a bunch of live albums from previus tours would be great. Like the cds from donington 88 and many others. Im sure they have since 99 tons of recordings maybe in the 80s was dificult to do that
 
GhostofCain said:
Not every customer wants the same thing from the brand: some value the live shows, some favour the T-shirts, some would buy anything with Eddie on it, and some would even purchase a CD of new music.

At the end of the day, it is up to Steve to decide what type of product we get.
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Of course! Agreed on all points.

I just don't think it's too outlandish or strange that some are asking for new music, even in ways that might seem entitled.
 
dickinson1978 said:
They dont owe us nothing after 50 years. But if there is no new studio album a bunch of live albums from previus tours would be great. Like the cds from donington 88 and many others. Im sure they have since 99 tons of recordings maybe in the 80s was dificult to do that
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I completely disagree with that. If they’re still around—and enthusiastically announcing live shows—then they owe it to the fans. They owe a good show, the best sound possible, the full effort. And yes, they definitely owe the occasional new album too. Because they’ve always said they’re not some bullshit cabaret act, right? Well, then live up to it.

In other, more cynical words — they’re still in the market, selling us their product. And many of us, as consumers, don’t just want to see them live; we also want to hear new music. It’s not the most romantic or artsy way to put it, but it’s true.
 
Azas said:
I completely disagree with that. If they’re still around—and enthusiastically announcing live shows—then they owe it to the fans. They owe a good show, the best sound possible, the full effort. And yes, they definitely owe the occasional new album too. Because they’ve always said they’re not some bullshit cabaret act, right? Well, then live up to it.

In other, more cynical words — they’re still in the market, selling us their product. And many of us, as consumers, don’t just want to see them live; we also want to hear new music. It’s not the most romantic or artsy way to put it, but it’s true.
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And I disagree with that. The owe us new music because of what exactly? Being a music band? Being big music band? I don't follow the logic here. At the end of the day - they are music band, they play music that they want to play and people have freedom to either listen to that or not. There is nothing about making new music (unless they have some sort of written contract for one more album, then yes - the owe that album).

Let's imagine that we're not on maiden fan forum but on forum of some sort pub band. Would you make similar argument? That if they are on market i.e. they play every friday at 'Cat Ass Beer & Pizza Pub' they should create new music, albums etc.? Or what if they were, let say, painters? Would you say that since they have exhibitions they should also paint new paintings?

At the end of the day what they owe us is, in general, nothing. Unless we're going to a concert - then they owe us something in return for the price of the ticket. But that's it. That's cynical and true. What you said, in my opinion, is fantasy land where you assume that if someone is on the market then he should put new product on the market. But not even that - that should be very specific new product - in that case new album.

But I would love new album. However I think that biggest obstacle here is probably Steve opinion on Simon in relation to Iron Maiden sound. Until now Steve and Nicko were the backbone of band rhytm section. At this stage of career, with legacy that they have, this can be a huge factor in Steve mind.
 
Batman said:
And I disagree with that. The owe us new music because of what exactly? Being a music band? Being big music band? I don't follow the logic here. At the end of the day - they are music band, they play music that they want to play and people have freedom to either listen to that or not. There is nothing about making new music (unless they have some sort of written contract for one more album, then yes - the owe that album).

Let's imagine that we're not on maiden fan forum but on forum of some sort pub band. Would you make similar argument? That if they are on market i.e. they play every friday at 'Cat Ass Beer & Pizza Pub' they should create new music, albums etc.? Or what if they were, let say, painters? Would you say that since they have exhibitions they should also paint new paintings?

At the end of the day what they owe us is, in general, nothing. Unless we're going to a concert - then they owe us something in return for the price of the ticket. But that's it. That's cynical and true. What you said, in my opinion, is fantasy land where you assume that if someone is on the market then he should put new product on the market. But not even that - that should be very specific new product - in that case new album.

But I would love new album. However I think that biggest obstacle here is probably Steve opinion on Simon in relation to Iron Maiden sound. Until now Steve and Nicko were the backbone of band rhytm section. At this stage of career, with legacy that they have, this can be a huge factor in Steve mind.
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Not going to argue—you see it your way, I see it a bit differently. I get the whole “they owe us nothing” point of view, but if they’re still playing the game of being a music band, then they should release new music, because that’s always been their way. They’re not some pub band that only sells a handful of albums.

It’s like being a painter—you couldn’t hold an exhibition without first painting a bunch of new works. And if most of your paintings were sold at that exhibition, you couldn’t hold another one unless you created several new pieces to justify the event. Right?

edit: Also, hasn’t Kiss been heavily criticized over the years for playing the same songs over and over again? Is Maiden now choosing to follow that same path? Wouldn’t such criticism from fans be completely justified?
 
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Vaenyr said:
But posting on a fan board that we'd like them to write more music should be fair game, no?
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It is , nobody said otherwise, it`s the entitled view that`s the issue as i think we can all see, not the actual wish for new music.
GhostofCain said:
Not every customer wants the same thing from the brand: some value the live shows, some favour the T-shirts, some would buy anything with Eddie on it, and some would even purchase a CD of new music.

At the end of the day, it is up to Steve to decide what type of product we get.
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Agree, Maiden live is more my thing at this stage of their career,but not the same for everyone. I guess the term brand and not band wasn`t a typo though!
Azas said:
Because they’ve always said they’re not some bullshit cabaret act, right? Well, then live up to it.
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Maiden have long since passed the point that they need to prove that ridiculous point to anyone, unless you have missed the 50 year back catalogue.
Batman said:
At the end of the day what they owe us is, in general, nothing. Unless we're going to a concert - then they owe us something in return for the price of the ticket.
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Agreed, and in my opinion they do that still with ease
 
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Azas said:
It’s like being a painter—you couldn’t hold an exhibition without first painting a bunch of new works. And if most of your paintings were sold at that exhibition, you couldn’t hold another one unless you created several new pieces to justify the event. Right?
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You're too focused on the details here :-) A musician doesn't sell master tapes, they sell copies. So, sticking with the analogy, a painter would sell reproductions here. And about new works? Maiden have many albums, right? However, that's not the point of the example.

The point is: you don't have to create a new product to make money and for it to have meaning and value for the recipient.
 
Fozzie said:
It is , nobody said otherwise, it`s the entitled view that`s the issue as i think we can all see, not the actual wish for new music.

Agree, Maiden live is more my thing at this stage of their career,but not the same for everyone. I guess the term brand and not band wasn`t a typo though!

Maiden have long since passed the point that they need to prove that ridiculous point to anyone, unless you have missed the 50 year back catalogue.

Agreed, and in my opinion they do that still with ease
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Iron maiden is not a cabaret. They played live nearly 90% of senjutsu album in 2 tours. And the shows sounds and looks like iron maiden,they are old but they can play. Now hits but rhis is not touring with all classics for years.

Guns n roses is good example of a cabaret act. They dont sound as guns n roses anymore and they dont care. They dont record albums and the dont care
 
dickinson1978 said:
Iron maiden is not a cabaret. They played live nearly 90% of senjutsu album in 2 tours. And the shows sounds and looks like iron maiden,they are old but they can play. Now hits but rhis is not touring with all classics for years.

Guns n roses is good example of a cabaret act. They dont sound as guns n roses anymore and they dont care. They dont record albums and the dont care
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You need to check your maths…
 
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