RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 2025 Tour Thread *SPOILERS INSIDE*


It seems Adrian again had a bit of an issue with Wasted Years tempo in Glasgow. Check the part before the solo. Those exact encore songs will never sound good slower.

Btw, can someone make a gif of Adrian and Bruce dancing during the latter part of the solo. Such a lovely moment. :lol: :)
 
I don't think ease or difficulty of the song is what determines the tempo they're playing it live. I don't know WHAT their reasons are...but that's not it. "SSOASS" and believe it or not "Wrathchild" are more difficult songs and those aren't slowed down live.
 
btx109 said:
I don't think ease or difficulty of the song is what determines the tempo they're playing it live. I don't know WHAT their reasons are...but that's not it. "SSOASS" and believe it or not "Wrathchild" are more difficult songs and those aren't slowed down live.
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Oh yeah, I completely agree. That's pretty much what I meant - the song is physically easy to play, so what's their reason for the slow pace?
 
Pretty much this, Adrian has always wanted more measured tempos. That was one of the reasons he originally left the band, IIRC. Steve wanted faster tempos (compare Icarus on POM to LAD), Adrian wanted to stay closer to the albums.

Edit: ah, @btx109 was faster than me! :D
 
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Iron Maiden review – 50th anniversary tour as near as uncompromising band get to greatest hits show

The newest song might date from 1992 but that matters little to fans of their fast and intricate heavy metal
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Age is starting to show, too: Dickinson’s famous “air-raid siren” voice is still a thing of range and power, but it is more “car-alarm voice” now.
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This is low-key hilarious.

I think that changes in tempo for songs like WY are, mainly, to not challenge Bruce too much. This is normal - with age lung capacity tend to change.
 
riff said:
I don't see the problem as long as somebody isn't being a relentless sourpuss going out of their way to dampen the enthusiasm of others. Some want to share their excitement, some cast a more critical eye over things. Surely room for both. If you want blanket positivty with no room for dissent you might be better off trying the IMFC boards.
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Similar kind of post to the guy yesterday who complained about people getting offended and then got offended themselves. Dissent is fine until someone dissents with your opinion and then they can fuck off to the official forum.
 
Iron Lurker said:
This is the quote I was remembering:

“If I closed my eyes at moments during that rehearsal it was like having Clive Burr back in the band”.
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This is part of the same interview (which I linked to ) and comes immediately before the bit I quoted, which I understood as clarifying why he thought it was "like having Clive back". You are, of course, entitled to interpret it differently ;)
 
srfc said:
Similar kind of post to the guy yesterday who complained about people getting offended and then got offended themselves. Dissent is fine until someone dissents with your opinion and then they can fuck off to the official forum.
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I honestly think some people has a very hard time seeing the difference between dissenting from another random fella opinion (arguing the reasons why you think different) and blatantly stating you are sick of others opinions on a given topic and that those are just ignorant statements and utter bullshit.

We all come here to talk passionately about the band we love and sharing our different views, all of us won't like some stuff we read and that's no reason to go aggressive and disrespectful to damage the discussion, it happens everywhere online and this forum should be better. It makes people not wanting to talk about a certain topic: talking about Simon is taboo everywhere, reddit, IMFC and here it seems like this way too, you can't say a word without those out of proportion reactions, it's almost impossible to find comments about it because they get downvoted and insulted to oblivion which is honestly, really sad.

The fuck I only said I don't like his 2 Minutes Intro, the SSOASS beat change and ROTAM part removals just to get that "utter bullshit, sick of that stupid opinions" and not talking about any single thing stated there. I'm not offended I've been online for decades and I know how this shit works, I just want to be able to talk about it respectfully and it's really hard anywhere because of that attitude many people has.

And from my part I will leave it here, don't want to go out of topic and write more about us than the band. Sorry for going out of topic, up the irons and let's keep talking about the band please.
 
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Skunkworks said:
I honestly think some of you have a very hard time seeing the difference between dissenting from another random fella opinion and arguing the reasons why you think different and blatantly stating you are sick of others opinions on a given topic and that those are just ignorant statements and utter bullshit.

We all come here to talk passionately about the band we love and sharing our different views, all of us won't like some stuff we read and that's no reason to go aggressive and disrespectful to damage the discussion, it happens everywhere online and this forum should be better. It makes people not wanting to talk about a certain topic: talking about Simon is taboo everywhere, reddit, IMFC and here it seems like this way too, you can't say a word without those out of proportion reactions, it's almost impossible to find comments about it because they get downvoted and insulted to oblivion which is honestly, really sad.

The fuck I only said I don't like his 2 Minutes Intro, the SSOASS beat change and ROTAM part removals just to get that "utter bullshit, sick of that stupid opinions" and not talking about any single thing stated there. I'm not offended I've been online for decades and I know how this shit works, I just want to be able to talk about it respectfully and it's really hard anywhere.

And from my part I will leave it here, don't want to go out of topic and write more about us than the band. Sorry for going out of topic.
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I think you misinterpreted my post, I've no problem with anyone having any opinion, but I take issue with telling people to go to the IMFC.
 
srfc said:
I think you misinterpreted my post, I've no problem with anyone having any opinion, but I take issue with telling people to go to the IMFC.
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Oh, it wasn't on you specifically, just replied your post to keep on the ongoing topic you were talking about. I apologize if it looked that way, I'm not very masterful with english, not my native language.
 
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I like Simon's performance overall. It's good. But some things just baffle me. For example:

I have no bloody idea why Simon is counting this part like this on the hi-hat. If I was playing with him, it would confuse the hell out of me (also did confuse the band on numerous occasions this year). Counting 1/8 notes or even 1/4 would make a lot more sense. Or just don't count and do cymbal swells like a certain best looking drummer did.
 
Skunkworks said:
I honestly think some of you have a very hard time seeing the difference between dissenting from another random fella opinion and arguing the reasons why you think different and blatantly stating you are sick of others opinions on a given topic and that those are just ignorant statements and utter bullshit.
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I think you might've misread the tone of some comments and might've read too much into some of them. I don't think the comments were talking about and your assessment of Simon. There were similar posts about Simon before you joined the thread, so it shouldn't be taken personally.

Skunkworks said:
it happens everywhere online and this forum should be better.
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I get the sentiment, but on the other hand: why? Like yeah, theoretically everything could and should be better, but there's nothing unique about this forum to hold it to a higher standard.

Skunkworks said:
It makes people not wanting to talk about a certain topic: talking about Simon is taboo everywhere, reddit, IMFC and here it seems like this way too, you can't say a word without those out of proportion reactions, it's almost impossible to find comments about it because they get downvoted and insulted to oblivion which is honestly, really sad.
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Reddit and IMFC are their own thing, but here it's definitely not taboo to talk about Simon and his performance. Lately we have noticed a bit of a negativity spiral, where some things are blown out of proportion and then enter a feedback loop where people get heated and take out their pitchforks. Often out of a complete misunderstanding. No one will tear your head off for respectfully explaining your opinions or views. If people disagree they might push back though. That's to be expected, a forum's there for discussion.

Skunkworks said:
The fuck I only said I don't like his 2 Minutes Intro, the SSOASS beat change and ROTAM part removals just to get that "utter bullshit, sick of that stupid opinions" and not talking about any single thing stated there. I'm not offended I've been online for decades and I know how this shit works, I just want to be able to talk about it respectfully and it's really hard anywhere.
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I think you jumped the gun there and felt comments that weren't addressed to you, to being attacks against you.

Skunkworks said:
And from my part I will leave it here, don't want to go out of topic and write more about us than the band. Sorry for going out of topic.
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Hope you reconsider, Skunkworks is my favorite Bruce album, so I already like your username!
 
matic22 said:
I have no bloody idea why Simon is counting this part like this on the hi-hat. If I was playing with him, it would confuse the hell out of me (also did confuse the band on numerous occasions this year). Counting 1/8 notes or even 1/4 would make a lot more sense. Or just don't count and do cymbal swells like a certain best looking drummer did.
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Huh? He does eighth notes for the most part. In the beginning it sounds like he's stressing the off-beats, because the rest isn't in sync yet. Then he continues with the 1/8 notes, with a few 1/16 flourishes at the end of the measure.
 
Vaenyr said:
Huh? He does eighth notes for the most part. In the beginning it sounds like he's stressing the off-beats, because the rest isn't in sync yet. Then he continues with the 1/8 notes, with a few 1/16 flourishes at the end of the measure.
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It depends how you countvthe part. But yeah, you can say 1/8ths. Both handed hi-hat basically. It's just strange and the band almost imploded during this part on numerous occasions during this tour. As a guitarist, I consider that part as a "feel" part anf there should not be any count. Or if there was, do one handed 1/4 or even 1/2s.
 
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