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I know you guys are SUPER worried for ya Mexican booooiii, but I'm fine, thank you.

The entire state of Jalisco is in lockdown due to an government operation in the town of Tapalpa in which the leader of the CJNG cartel was taken down. Because of that, the cartel has organized highway blockages by burning buses and cars throughout the state. Neighboring states have also seen violent events.

the Cartel warned that at 2pm (in about an hour) they will open fire at ANYONE found on the streets. they are warning people to stay home. Sooo, fun times. How's y'alls Sunday going?
 
I don't want to make light of it, because the states of Jalisco, Michoacán, Colima, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Guerrero and Tamaulipas were literally on fire, but.... We stayed home, and it was fine. Some co-workers reported hearing gun fire by their neighborhoods, but nothing too serious. After a while my mom and I just watched a miniseries on Netflix. Like... There's a national emergency, but we have electricity and internet. Thankfully we didn't have to leave the house.

Kept tabs with all friends and family, save two of them. Gonna do I final head count shortly before calling it a night.
 
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Onhell said:
The entire state of Jalisco is in lockdown due to an government operation in the town of Tapalpa in which the leader of the CJNG cartel was taken down. Because of that, the cartel has organized highway blockages by burning buses and cars throughout the state. Neighboring states have also seen violent events.

the Cartel warned that at 2pm (in about an hour) they will open fire at ANYONE found on the streets. they are warning people to stay home. Sooo, fun times. How's y'alls Sunday going?
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And if you think about it all this mess and killings happen because some rich people in US and Canada choose to spend some of their surpluses in cocaine consumption!
 
____no5 said:
And if you think about it all this mess and killings happen because some rich people in US and Canada choose to spend some of their surpluses in cocaine consumption!
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Doesn’t Mexico as a state also bear some responsibility here? For many years there’s been tolerance of cartels and their heavily armed gangs. It’s an extremely complex problem, with corruption seemingly present at multiple levels, and so on.
 
Onhell said:
I don't want to make light of it, because the states of Jalisco, Michoacán, Colima, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Guerrero and Tamaulipas were literally on fire, but.... We stayed home, and it was fine. Some co-workers reported hearing gun fire by their neighborhoods, but nothing too serious. After a while my mom and I just watched a miniseries on Netflix. Like... There's a national emergency, but we have electricity and internet. Thankfully we didn't have to leave the house.

Kept tabs with all friends and family, save two of them. Gonna do I final head count shortly before calling it a night.
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Glad you made it through without issue!
 
Onhell said:
I don't want to make light of it, because the states of Jalisco, Michoacán, Colima, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Guerrero and Tamaulipas were literally on fire, but.... We stayed home, and it was fine. Some co-workers reported hearing gun fire by their neighborhoods, but nothing too serious. After a while my mom and I just watched a miniseries on Netflix. Like... There's a national emergency, but we have electricity and internet. Thankfully we didn't have to leave the house.

Kept tabs with all friends and family, save two of them. Gonna do I final head count shortly before calling it a night.
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Glad to hear you are OK!
 
Azas said:
Doesn’t Mexico as a state also bear some responsibility here? For many years there’s been tolerance of cartels and their heavily armed gangs. It’s an extremely complex problem, with corruption seemingly present at multiple levels, and so on.
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Yes.... and No. The drug market, legal and illegal was literally created by the United States. The Union asked the Mexican government during the civil war to grow amapolas (forget the name in English), to make morphine for the soldiers. BOOM, the drug trade is born. Fact of the matter is the demand is mostly international, mostly from the U.S.

Also fact, the Mexican government has indeed tolerated, negotiated, partnered with and benefited from the drug trade.

What happened this weekend was a JOINT effort between Mexican and U.S forces. Which leads me to believe it was enacted due to pressure from the U.S.... this whole "We will invade Mexico, because of the narco" BS resulted in this. These cartels are Hydras, they lopped off one head, four more will grow.

They took out an elderly, terminally ill, old man as a show of force and 11 states suffered the consequences.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
@Onhell, glad you're keeping safe! What are things looking like today thus far?
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On Monday work was suspended or moved to home office for those who could. School was suspended and stay in place orders were enacted. Today most people went back to work, public transit was up and running again albeit in limited capacity. Classes for elementary were still cancelled and for middle school and higher are being given virtually. School will go back to in person tomorrow Wednesday.

Today I went out to do some grocery shopping, there are a few corner stores inside my gated community and they are out of EVERYTHING. Worse than during the pandemic. The Walmart down the road is supposed to be open, so I'll head over there in about 30 minutes. I made a quick run this morning, cars were out and about, far from "normal" morning traffic, a few public buses, so some normalcy. All the convenience stores were burnt down though, one of them less than 1km from my house. My brother told me that the hacienda behind the neighborhood belonged to the cartel leader that was taken down during the operative. So fun stuff.
 
Onhell said:
Yes.... and No. The drug market, legal and illegal was literally created by the United States. The Union asked the Mexican government during the civil war to grow amapolas (forget the name in English), to make morphine for the soldiers. BOOM, the drug trade is born. Fact of the matter is the demand is mostly international, mostly from the U.S.
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Poppies.
 
It's official, We go back to in-person activities tomorrow, the red alert has been officially lifted. My friend stuck one state over will be able to come home today as well. Another friend in Mexico State, where there were no alerts, said few students went to school on Monday. I'm expecting the same thing here. A few of my students are from neighboring towns and go home on the weekends. I doubt they'll make the commute.

Official news is "El Mencho", the cartel leader, was killed in during the strike as well as 45 arrests were made. Everything is still "ongoing."
 
Azas said:
Doesn’t Mexico as a state also bear some responsibility here? For many years there’s been tolerance of cartels and their heavily armed gangs. It’s an extremely complex problem, with corruption seemingly present at multiple levels, and so on.
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Absolutely, though I didn't mean it as responsibility but as a market, in the sense that if there were no demand (market) for cocaine there would be no cartels.
 
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