Luke
Metal Wizard
Scaring Black Wizard.
Why is how "artistic" something is an argument for how good something sounds or why it's "better?" The arguments for prog music never cease to amaze me.
Debatable.
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Debatable.
Whooten
Ancient Mariner
The poll asks which is more artistic, that is why we are arguing on artistic merit. If the poll was worded as "who do you like better," it would be a different story. If arguments such as better at playing instruments, better at writing songs, better at performing live, and better at pleasing fans are not what we should judge artistic merit on, I don't know what is. Artistic often does not equal sounds good.
We are Iron Maiden fans--of course album covers matter!
Ask any Rush fan about Clockwork Angels and they will likely tell you that it was a very well received album, and likely their best in 20+ years. This is simply not the case with Metallica. And I will repeat I am a fan of both.
Finally, most of my comments have been very tongue in cheek (I think Ariana rightly recognized this, and it was her post I replied to).
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Every individual out here can or cannot use arguments that are about artistic merits (or anything else) in order to explain why they like an artist the most.
Whatever is said: "best band", "band you like the most", it is all a subjective recognition of (aspects of) an artist. In the end, a personal liking overrules everything. If we want or can explain that; IMO that would be a bonus, but not everyone is into that or is able to do that.
I fully agree with Whooten's explanation why he chooses Rush but I disagree with him that the arguments in this explanation are facts that (should) appeal in the same way to everybody out here.
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'Tallica. Close stuff!
Black Wizard
Pleb Hunter
This one might go to pens.
As long as Sunderland stay up I don't care.
Whooten
Ancient Mariner
No, I would like to be able to most my preferences and debate/defend them like everyone else, while staying on-topic.
Moon Child
Ancient Mariner
Rush.
The Flash
Dennis Wilcock did 9/11
If that doesn't happen, there's no discussion regarding music. "I like this one better, because I like it better, deal with it" is not discussion material.
One might not want to engage in lengthy discussions and that's fine, but condemning it is unnecessary. And yes, that includes the much annoying "Best vs. Favorite" debate.
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I really don't think the certain criteria we're looking for here is "artistic merit", Whooten. Everything counts, you have to take everything into account and the importance of merits may vary from person to person.
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Ariana
Black-and-white leopard
I never said I object to discussions and I don't condemn them. But people fail to see that it is always a matter of personal taste. There is no such thing as objective truth to music and talking about writing better songs or performing better live is still an opinion. That's all.
The Flash
Dennis Wilcock did 9/11
That I'll agree with. I think there are personal metrics that one may use to measure music, but the fact of the matter is they're always personal. One may consider something to be the objective truth when it comes to music but he cannot expect other people to do share those opinions.
I feel like it often comes down to semantics. Like the difference between "X is better than Y." and "I think X is better than Y." There's literally no difference, but we feel like one is more modest, unprejudiced and personal.
I feel like it often comes down to semantics. Like the difference between "X is better than Y." and "I think X is better than Y." There's literally no difference, but we feel like one is more modest, unprejudiced and personal.
I'm sorry, Ariana.
Rush.
Rush.
MrKnickerbocker
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Tough choice, but Metallica has influenced me far more than Rush ever will. Granted, Rush probably influenced most other bands I listen to that influence me...but I gotta go with Metallica.
