Who's in for some more Maiden Cabaret?

Perun said:
Are we really getting worked up about something that has not been announced, nor even hinted at, the likelihood of which we have no information about, not even a vague clue that allows an educated guess? In other words, are we literally getting worked up about nothing in this thread?
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You got it Perun! :D
 
To be honest, as long as they keep on recording new music, I do not care. Alternating 'History' tours with new album tours (or tours with a huge number of recent songs, like those gigs from 2010) works perfectly fine and is certainly far away from the cabaret of the bands Janick was probably referring to (e.g. Status Quo).
 
Wether you're worked up about it or about like it or not, it looks like most of you voiced your opinion on this possibility so thanks for your feedback.
Brigantium said:
Nice find! Sounds like he really does leave everything up in the air.
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Which is odd since they always say that everything is planned years in advance. I actually would like it if they would change that. Let them follow their feelings of now. Maybe someone will get a clear moment and say: hold on a minute, let's reload the batteries and be creative again.
 
GhostofCain said:
Exactly.
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I realize people do not like that name cabaret, but I didn't make it up. Janick did. He didn't give any other definition of anything else than what he said. And what he said, how would that exclude Maiden's current activities? Have you seen that interview? I would really advise everyone to watch it. You'd really get the idea of: "yeah, Maiden is certainly not doing the things he was advocating against back then.

And correct me if I am wrong but I don't recall that Janick spoke of or referred to other bands. He spoke of looking to the future and not looking twenty years back. ME is looking 20 years back, even more. If a band does that, in the final stages of their career, for a lengthy period of time (doing the same for more than 2 years would be lengthy IMO), without going into the studio, then I feel a band is heading to that cabaret stage Janick was talking about.

And just an open question: Even if he referred to other bands, how would Maiden be different from those cabaret bands if Maiden would go on doing what they did in the last two years?

Perun said:
Are we really getting worked up about something that has not been announced, nor even hinted at, the likelihood of which we have no information about, not even a vague clue that allows an educated guess? In other words, are we literally getting worked up about nothing in this thread?
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I wonder if it would really make a difference when Maiden officially will share their plans. Would we really see people, who are currently fine with a certain scenario or not, change their ideas? The topic title is "who's in for", so I was curious to know now what you guys would think (and of course, I gave my own ideas about it).

So: -even if we might differ on the term cabaret- THANKS everybody for the feedback! Because there certainly was a lot. Almost every poster in this topic has given their opinion on the possibility of Maiden continuing ME in the same manner: Most people do not know or do not want to give their limits, or be critical at all. It looks like the majority is happy (ranging from quite to perfectly!) with Maiden if they do the same things three or more years in a row, without an album since 2010, being in the final stage(s) of their active existence.
 
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Forostar said:
I wonder if it would really make a difference when Maiden officially will share their plans. Would we really see people, who are currently fine with a certain scenario or not, change their ideas?
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I simply don't understand this thread's premise. There is absolutely no information available on future plans. There is no information available that says Maiden will continue with the Maiden England tour, and there no information available that they won't. There is: Nothing. I can't for the life of me understand how somebody can get worked up about Nothing.

With that in mind, I find it spectacularly irrelevant what people think about the fantasy of a continued Maiden England tour. It's nothing but a fantasy at the moment. It's not even speculation, because speculation has at least some factual basis. To me, this is about as interesting or relevant as the question how people would respond to Jan dying his hair green, Nicko using a drum set made of cat skin, or the band doing a private gig in Kim Jong Un's back yard.
 
That's fine Per. I'd even say: Don't get worked up about it (you sound angry, but that's the internet, I might be wrong). You happened to be the only one who did not give his opinion, and I have no problem with it.

Personally, I look at this very different. I wonder and I am curious about people's opinions, also if there's no information.
 
I am longing for a new album, so I can't help speculating and getting more critical, the longer all this takes.

It's pure impatience from my side I guess.
 
I am craving for a new album too, no doubt, but I don't see the point in guesswork.

Ariana said:
I'd like to take part in this thread, please.
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The band will lose my support if they did that. Don't they see that they are supporting an inhumane regime with that act? Like they were saying, "we don't care for millions of Korean lives, we're fine with our pay." Come to think of it, I might burn all my Maiden stuff, just in case they ever do that.
 
But there's all kinds of fantasies on this forum. How would your favorite Maiden gig look like?
Would we get a DVD from the current tour? Will Bruce come up with a new album? etc.

We have no say, but an idea alone can be positive (or negative).
 
Forostar said:
I realize people do not like that name cabaret, but I didn't make it up. Janick did. He didn't give any other definition of anything else than what he said. And what he said, how would that exclude Maiden's current activities? Have you seen that interview? I would really advise everyone to watch it. You'd really get the idea of: "yeah, Maiden is certainly not doing the things he was advocating against back then.

And correct me if I am wrong but I don't recall that Janick spoke of or referred to other bands. He spoke of looking to the future and not looking twenty years back. ME is looking 20 years back, even more. If a band does that, in the final stages of their career, for a lengthy period of time (doing the same for more than 2 years would be lengthy IMO), without going into the studio, then I feel a band is heading to that cabaret stage Janick was talking about.

And just an open question: Even if he referred to other bands, how would Maiden be different from those cabaret bands if Maiden would go on doing what they did in the last two years?
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The term cabaret is widely used in the UK to describe old bands who are constantly playing the same songs; they might release a new album and play one song off it, and the same old hits. Status Quo, a band whose 70s output I really love, is a perfect example of this (my example, not Janick's; he would probably never name other bands). That definition of cabaret is basically what Janick has always referred to (and Bruce too).

Iron Maiden are still a creative entity. By alternating history tours and new album tours, they are keeping things fresh and, before anyone jumps and says they are playing the same songs, I will add that since the return of Bruce and Adrian they have played more than 70 different songs live (some more than others, obviously). Would I prefer them to do a history tour in one year rather than two? Of course, but they like to tour during the Summer, and the only possible way of covering all the areas where there is a demand to see them play is by doing the tour over two years.

That being said, it is time to work on a new album. :)
 
Forostar said:
I had to count that. :)
71 I think.
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Doesn't sound like a cabaret act, if you ask me.

If they do continue the current tour into next year, I can understand how some will become impatient for them to do something else - but I don't think it will qualify for them being characterized as a cabaret act, not even as a nostalgia band. The mention of the 2010 summer tour in this discussion rather serves to illustrate the opposite. That tour had only a few pre-2000 songs. It showed a band who are confident in their newer material as well.
 
I need to do a recount. I keep forgetting the rare songs that were played by this line-up, the ones I did not see:
Charlotte the Harlot, Stranger in a Strange Land, The Fallen Angel, Out of the Silent Planet.

I guess this is it:
01 Prowler
02 Sanctuary
03 Remember Tomorrow
04 Running Free
05 Phantom of The Opera
06 Charlotte the Harlot
07 Iron Maiden
08 Wrathchild
09 Murders In The Rue Morgue
10 Another Life
11 Killers
12 Drifter
13 Children Of The Damned
14 The Prisoner
15 22 Acacia Avenue
16 The Number Of The Beast
17 Run To The Hills
18 Hallowed Be Thy Name
19 Where Eagles Dare
20 Revelations
21 Die With Your Boots On
22 The Trooper
23 Aces High
24 2 Minutes To Midnight
25 Powerslave
26 Rime Of The Ancient Mariner
27 Wasted Years
28 Heaven Can Wait
29 Stranger in a Strange Land
30 Moonchild
31 Can I Play With Madness
32 The Evil That Men Do
33 Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
34 The Clairvoyant
35 Bring Your Daughter…To The Slaughter
36 Afraid To Shoot Strangers
37 Fear Of The Dark
38 Sign Of The Cross
39 Lord Of The Flies
40 Man On The Edge
41 Futureal
42 The Clansman
43 The Wicker Man
44 Ghost Of The Navigator
45 Brave New World
46 Blood Brothers
47 The Mercenary
48 Dream Of Mirrors
49 The Fallen Angel
50 Out of the Silent Planet
51 Wildest Dreams
52 Rainmaker
53 No More Lies
54 Dance Of Death
55 Paschendale
56 Journeyman
57 Different World
58 These Colours Don’t Run
59 Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
60 The Pilgrim
61 The Longest Day
62 Out Of The Shadows
63 The Reincanation Of Benjamin Breeg
64 For The Greater Good Of God
65 Lord Of Light
66 The Legacy
67 Satellite 15 / The Final Frontier
68 El Dorado
69 Coming Home
70 The Talisman
71 When the Wild Wind Blows
71 songs in total.
42 are from before this line-up (naturally many of these have lots of current members playing on them!).
29 are from the current.
 
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