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I still reject the notion of an 'extremely strong mandate.' Trump essentially won by a total of just shy of 230,000 votes across the three states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that blocked Harris from 270 electoral votes. The House itself was very nearly an even split.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
I still reject the notion of an 'extremely strong mandate.' Trump essentially won by a total of just shy of 230,000 votes across the three states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that blocked Harris from 270 electoral votes. The House itself was very nearly an even split.
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Yes, and he only won a plurality of the popular vote.
 
Yax said:
He adheres to zero principles except for Trump First. And some prominent MAGA voices are starting to realize that MAGA is a lie. All the lies ad hypocrisy shouldn't be a surprise to you, but I am glad you acknowledge what a disaster he is and has been. Try and remember this going forward, no5 and don't allow yourself to be gaslighted into believing that Trump primally works towards a bigger goal, rather than to personally wield unchecked power.
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Wishful thinking, i.e., he had previous experience with the blob he wouldn't do the same mistakes (he did way worse and counting).
He had a very strong mandate and popular support, plus Supreme Court and all, frankly if anyone could change anything since FDR that should be him. Plus that he didn't start new wars then. And Biden was a total disaster in my book.

I was watching Hilary talking the other day, such a disgusting hawk it's terrifying. There is not a single man on each party that would inspire me hope that things would be less hawkish next time. If Democrats win we get a war with Russia, if Republicans we get a war with China.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Well, hang on there, I'm sure we'll have another pivot to "He's a secret masterful tactician" within a month. It's always how it seems to go.
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Not me. I had almost irreversibly lost faith during the 12-day war; it was obvious where things were heading. I simply waited for him to complete one year in office, as I had promised earlier in this thread.

*Well, to be totally honest, I did wait for an eleventh hour miracle from January 20th to February 28th, though not holding my breath by any stretch of the imagination.
Best thing he can do for his base and the world is die.
 
No5. He barely won the election electorally and didn't win the majority of the vote. More people voted for other candidates than voted for Trump. The House majority is slim and the Senate majority isn't big either. Obama his first few months had a massive mandate though with a Super majority. Trump having a mandate is another spin, another lie. He had a mandate from his MAGA supporters, and even that is waning now.
 
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Yax said:
No5. He barely won the election electorally and didn't win the majority of the vote. More people voted for other candidates than voted for Trump. The House majority is slim and the Senate majority isn't big either. Obama his first few months had a massive mandate though with a Super majority. Trump having a mandate is another spin, another lie. He had a mandate from his MAGA supporters, and even that is waning now.
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Yes, but when you consider everything that was thrown at him during the two-year election campaign, one case after another, along with the sustained media attacks his victory was quite significant. His mandate appears strong, in that context.
 
____no5 said:
Yes, but when you consider everything that was thrown at him during the two-year election campaign, one case after another, along with the sustained media attacks his victory was quite significant. His mandate appears strong, in that context.
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That has exactly nothing to do with a mandate to effect a change. But his victory was an impressive comeback, I give you that.
 
____no5 said:
Yes, but when you consider everything that was thrown at him during the two-year election campaign, one case after another, along with the sustained media attacks his victory was quite significant. His mandate appears strong, in that context.
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Seems to fail to consider that he was running against an administration with an approval in the mid-30s though, no? The election was easily winnable/losable for both parties. Biden - had he stayed as the candidate - had internal numbers showing he wouldn't have even crossed 175 electoral votes.
 
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