USA Politics

[Trevoire]

I'm not going to the U.S for either business or pleasure any time soon.

Me and the wife used to spend a significant portion of our income visiting Florida every year. We last went April '25 and even then made sure to have our passports and ESTAs on us at all times, we seriously considered cancelling altogether. Things have become exponentially worse since then.

I will not support a country that is descending into facism. We will spend our money elsewhere until the US regains some semblance of sanity. Though I fear this change is one that the country will struggle to pull back from.

 

[Spaldy]

Maiden should cancel the US leg of the tour. They won't but they should.

In fact, all bands should cancel their US tours.

 

[Black Abyss Babe]

Maiden should cancel the US leg of the tour. They won't but they should.

In fact, all bands should cancel their US tours.

 

[The Garlon]

Maiden should cancel the US leg of the tour. They won't but they should.

In fact, all bands should cancel their US tours.

That would be a bummer but I would understand. MAGA may be a minority but the rest of us haven't done enough to stop them

 

[Jer]

Oh, FFS — yeah, let’s punish every American because enough nutters in 7 states tipped the balance toward Trump in the election. Outside my control, folks, and more calls to my already Democratic representatives in Congress won’t make a difference.

Cancel the U.S. leg of the Maiden tour? Should we have had Metallica boycott the U.K. after Brexit? Get off your goddamned high horses.

 

[Jer]

A well-considered essay on the state of the left in the U.S.: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/where-does-a-liberal-go-from-here

 

[Yax]

Cancel the U.S. leg of the Maiden tour? Should we have had Metallica boycott the U.K. after Brexit? Get off your goddamned high horses.

I get that is offensive to you, but your comparison is just nuts. The U.K. left the EU. Okay. Were they coercing, threatening and manipulating the rest of the world? Did they officially declare the EU their enemy which they would undermine? Did they attempt to annex, say, Iceland? You know what Trump is doing to you guys, and what he is doing to us. I try to avoid U.S. goods when I can, because everytime I buy something american, I feel bad because I get reminded that this administration and 30% of the population want to see me in the dirt and under Trump's and Putin's boots. They want to influence and undermine my domestic political system and dismantle the union which made us wealthy and better off. They have forever tarnished my opinion of the U.S. and the goodwill I held.

Which reminds me, time to get off Firefox and install a European browser instead.

 

[Vaenyr]

Maiden should cancel the US leg of the tour. They won't but they should.

In fact, all bands should cancel their US tours.

Many smaller bands are. Not necessarily as a political statement, but because they simply can't afford touring the US anymore. Trump's tariffs aren't helping either.

I get that is offensive to you, but your comparison is just nuts. The U.K. left the EU. Okay. Were they coercing, threatening and manipulating the rest of the world? Did they officially declare the EU their enemy which they would undermine? Did they attempt to annex, say, Iceland? You know what Trump is doing to you guys, and what he is doing to us. I try to avoid U.S. goods when I can, because everytime I buy something american, I feel bad because I get reminded that this administration and 30% of the population want to see me in the dirt and under Trump's and Putin's boots. They want to influence and undermine my domestic political system and dismantle the union which made us wealthy and better off. They have forever tarnished my opinion of the U.S. and the goodwill I held.

Which reminds me, time to get off Firefox and install a European browser instead.

Well said. The US, the super power with the mighties military in the world, is burning bridges with all allies and activel turning hostile against us. Whether we like it or not, America is becoming an enemy of the West. We are justified in sitting on the highest of horses when everything we warned Americans is coming true and not only are US citizens being arrested, tortured and outright killed, foreign sovereign nations are being threatened by Mango Mussolini.

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Also, boo-fucking-hoo at those trying to solely blame the voters of the swing states. This mess is on the entire nation. Maybe start holding conservatives accountable instead of "reaching across the aisle"? Maybe stop focusing all hostilities exclusively on leftists instead of being endlessly charitable to fucking neo nazis? People on the left were warning about everything that's happening, but moving the Dems further right was more important I guess.

What needs to be done is for the population to finally show some balls and do something. So many Americans over the years have projected an image of strength and rugged individualism. So many platitudes about how important the 2nd Amendment is. Instead we have millions of Americans cheering as the country falls to fascism. They celebrate when people on the left are murdered by the Gestapo. What needs to happen is a general strike; money is the only thing anyone cares about. Strike them where it hurts. But barely anyone in that nation is interested in doing something like that. Look at Serbia, for example, to see how other nations seize the moment to rise up.

 

[srfc]

Maiden should cancel the US leg of the tour. They won't but they should.

In fact, all bands should cancel their US tours.

They've played in terrible regimes their entire existence, China recently, middle east, Putin's Russia, Israel, they've even released a video from Behind the Iron Curtain.

 

[Jer]

Also, boo-fucking-hoo at those trying to solely blame the voters of the swing states. This mess is on the entire nation.

The entire nation (and the world) are indeed covered in the same mess, but that doesn’t change the fact that the swing state voters fully determined the outcome of that election. And if my own state’s representatives and governor are all Democrats already, there is literally nothing else that I can do to positively affect electoral outcomes here, which is the only thing that can make a concrete difference in the end.

And my state is currently directly paying the price for those swing state voters’ folly, so your armchair preaching is even more distasteful than usual.

Maybe start holding conservatives accountable instead of "reaching across the aisle"?

How? With no electoral power there are only words left. Without cooperation from at least a tiny handful of Republicans, nothing with any teeth can be done, except theoretically through the courts, where attempts are already being made.

Good luck finding a veto-proof congressional coalition willing to pass legislation to try to rein in Trump on Greenland. It shouldn’t be hard, but with today’s Republican Party it would be impossible.

Maybe stop focusing all hostilities exclusively on leftists instead of being endlessly charitable to fucking neo nazis?

This is an invention of your own mind. No one is trashing the left to the exclusion of calling out the right — both things need to happen simultaneously so the left can look like a viable alternative to people considering dumping their local Republicans. No one will switch their vote as long as they still think the alternative is even crazier.

People on the left were warning about everything that's happening, but moving the Dems further right was more important I guess.

People on the left cried wolf (or racist) too many times on too many things for a significant segment of disengaged centrists to take their warnings more seriously than the pocketbook issues that were most immediately important to them. That needs to be fixed.

The Democrats need to look like a sane alternative to right-leaning centrists in swing states. Nothing you’ve proposed would accomplish that.