Just to address the obvious bias in how this thread is aligned and the fact the most obnoxious ultra-progressive members are not from the US at all, yet they tend to school the actual US members on their politics (or at least, how the US should be).
I'll address this, since we all know you're taking shots at me anyway
No one is "schooling" the US members on their politics. There have been literally moments like Detective ranting about post-birth abortions, a thing that isn't only happening but is
physically impossible, due to being fed too much right wing propaganda. One doesn't have to be from the US to know that this is wrong and a lie. Pointing out such isn't "schooling".
Or how he was furious about Pride Month and asked why veterans weren't getting recognition,
despite there both being singular days and a dedicated month for the military. And then he turns around a votes for the candidate who consistently disrespects veterans and the party that constantly fucks over veterans. Turns out despite not living in the US, some of us are better informed about the facts precisely because we don't consume Fox News.
Also, one doesn't have to be American to know how obnoxious Bill Maher is and how nonsensical most of his takes are nowadays. They follow little logic and can be picked apart quite easily.
As for the "how the US should be": American politics influence the entire world. Of course it's better for the non-US folks if the US doesn't turn into a fascist regime. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
So, instead of following the conservative playbook of always presenting themselves as victims, poor underrepresented underdogs fighting against the biased mob, take an actual stance and defend it. Turns out once we talk about facts one side is far more equipped to defend its arguments and it most definitely aren't the right wingers
While I don’t think Bill Maher intentionally conflates the two, he doesn’t do enough to prove he doesn’t.
Then you haven't listened to anything he's said. He has been a raging Islamophobe for ages and
has been intentionally conflating the two. That's his fundamental take on the matter.
I assume I’m the moderate.
Ever notice you never hear about moderate extremism?
Yet, ideologically, we fight a two front war. We’re the army in that metaphor, though, that says to the two extreme factions “relax, join us in the middle with our friends on the polar opposite side of what you think for some beers and burgers — err, or grilled kale, or whatever. Just stop shrieking.”
I'm sorry, but this is such bullshit lmao
One side wants everyone to have equal rights. The other side
literally advocates for fascism. And the centrist are over there asking to compromise, "hey let's have a little fascism and a little genocide, then both sides will be happy, right?".
Even the simple act of conflating the two as if they were in any way comparable is beyond disingenuous. The US is descending into fascism due to the right wing. The left has been screaming about that for years and every single one of their warnings is coming true, yet we're supposed to concede that the progressives have gone too far? Because they don't want minorities to be treated bad or outright lynched? Maybe it
is valid to "shriek" when one side is (once again for emphasis)
literally descending into fascism and has started deporting innocents, yet people would rather "shriek" about pronouns?
Centrists are so incredibly frustrating, because they think they are so much better than the "extremes" (yet always project that image onto the left), yet most of the political ideas that have made their lives better were progressive ideas. The fact that they can never outright articulate their issues with their left beyond vague buzzwords indicates quite well the underlying bigotry. I'm sorry that you can't eat your burgers in peace, while the GOP is fucking up the economy (just like the left warned you) and is stripping away US citizens of their rights (just like the left warned you). Turns out some people have empathy for their fellow human beings and can't just look away at people being kidnapped and having their constitutional rights violated. I thought Americans were pretty big on the constitution and the first couple of amendments. Turns out eating a burger in peace and taking pot shots at the left instead of facing the fascists is far more comfortable I guess.
