USA Politics

Sheriff_of_Huddersfield said:
I can imagine anyone from a former Soviet Bloc or Warsaw Pact nation recoiling at the thought of anything associated with the former USSR’s ideology.

On the flip side, pure capitalism is brutal. The idea of something like anarcho-capitalism brings to mind post-apocalyptic warlord societies.
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I agree with that. The U.S. healthcare system — and a few other things, to be honest — is just too much for me. It really is the Wild Wild West. Good old Europe feels much more balanced and calibrated.
 
JudasMyGuide said:
Having the experience, yes, we tend to be rather irked b Western cafeteria armchair communists/tankies, who have no idea what they're talking about.

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Yeah, unless you are an anti-capitalist and anti-socialist, you can't be a friend of mine.

Like I said earlier
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In the US, most people have a simplified view that conflates electoral and economic systems incorrectly.

To wit in this simplified misconception: Capitalism is synonymous with Democracy, synonymous with Liberty. Socialism is synonymous with Communism, synonymous with Authoritarianism (Stalinist predominately).

In reality, the US is mildly socialist in some aspects (state provided education, right to a free public attorney in criminal cases). Our constitution actually doesn’t prohibit non-capitalist economic systems explicitly, either.

I can see how an American self-avowed “communist” who enjoys the comfort and abundance of a wealthy nation would seem ridiculous. “The great champion of the proletariat enters the Starbucks and orders a Venti Latte. He tips an extra 3% as a sign of workers’ solidarity, then reads reddit on his phone.”

In the relationship between commerce and state, at least in a democracy (or republic), there is some say that the working class have in how they are governed and at least an opportunity for them to organize politically.

The US government has long been more of an instrument of protecting property rights than an instrument of serving the masses.

But, here and there, some programs benefit the poor and are for the public good.
 
Of course, in my country there are also left- and right-wing parties. But since it’s a small country, those definitions are more nominal — not nonexistent, but definitely less pronounced than in many other European nations. Also, our main left-wing party is literally descended from the old Communist Party. After Lithuania declared independence, the Communists simply rebranded themselves as Social Democrats. Sure, they’re pro-Lithuanian and pro-European now, but the roots are still rotten. And that definitely doesn’t help my relationship with 'the left'.
 
Azas said:
Of course, in my country there are also left- and right-wing parties. But since it’s a small country, those definitions are more nominal — not nonexistent, but definitely less pronounced than in many other European nations. Also, our main left-wing party is literally descended from the old Communist Party. After Lithuania declared independence, the Communists simply rebranded themselves as Social Democrats. Sure, they’re pro-Lithuanian and pro-European now, but the roots are still rotten. And that definitely doesn’t help my relationship with 'the left'.
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That must be interesting to have rebrand of a former communist party at play in modern politics.

Seems like there’d always be a stigma but maybe some would have taken comfort in the familiarity early on.

In our system, Republican and Democrat have flipped roles, fractured, and reformed.

The Republicans were the anti-slavery abolitionist party mid 19th Century. So, considered “left” or “radical” during that time.

20th Century, they shifted toward small government and fiscal conservatism. Then big government conservatives.

Now, they’re a right-wing populist party.

The Democrats, by contrast, go back to Thomas Jefferson.
They started as an agrarian “states’ rights” party that opposed civil rights reforms.

Post Civil War, they were the “Southern” party.

Big shift left toward social welfare, liberalism (US definition), and civil rights under FDR but they made concessions to keep the Southern contingent.

Lost its Southern conservative base to the Republicans in the 60s but broadened to include minorities, labor unions, urban voters. Seen as party of the working class.

Now, party of progressive taxation, social programs, expanded civil rights.

I guess that shows that a party label is only as relevant as its stance at a given point in time.
 
Yeah, I criticised Kamala, I'll criticise Trump for the same - this is just as stupid for a politican (and especially the President). I suppose it's kinda more on the "dumb and offensive" side than actual hostility (I don't think this is some kind of serious statement, just a stupid joke), but still, fuck AI, seriously, and fuck the Orange Man. Isn't he supposed to have a Catholic veep who recently lost his Pope? Other people, even atheists, tend to send condolences to their fellow Catholics, Trump does this instead.

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JudasMyGuide said:
Yeah, I criticised Kamala, I'll criticise Trump for the same - this is just as stupid for a politican (and especially the President). I suppose it's kinda more on the "dumb and offensive" side than actual hostility (I don't think this is some kind of serious statement, just a stupid joke), but still, fuck AI, seriously, and fuck the Orange Man. Isn't he supposed to have a Catholic veep who recently lost his Pope? Other people, even atheists, tend to send condolences to their fellow Catholics, Trump does this instead.

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As usual, when Trump or the White House posts some stupid shit like this, the question should be "what kind of potentially unpopular policy are they trying to implement now?" as obviously Trump has no interest in being Pope - he's not even a Catholic. So the natural assumption is they want to distract from something else.
 
Considering the Catholic Church's reputation of covering up pedophilia within the own ranks and the numerous scandals, and Trump's ties to Epstein and the numerous allegations against him, this doesn't seem like the most flattering comparison lol
 
Dr. Eddies Wingman said:
As usual, when Trump or the White House posts some stupid shit like this, the question should be "what kind of potentially unpopular policy are they trying to implement now?" as obviously Trump has no interest in being Pope - he's not even a Catholic. So the natural assumption is they want to distract from something else.
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It could be to distract from what people are already unhappy about. But, in general, it just looks like more insane shit.

With Trump’s low polls, the Republicans are starting to get nervous about the mid-term congressional elections already.
 
Detective Beauregard said:
He’s such a troll, I love it.
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Understandable but he hasn’t “earned” the right to be troll, or his 100 days approval wouldn’t be rock bottom.
He is in such rush to show quick wins, that he achieves the opposite, take how a bad negotiator like Zelensky scored an Art of the Deal against him just because Trump was desperate to present something with a signature on it for his first 100 days.
 
Yax said:
*Trump pushes the n*ke button*

Detective: "lol, epic trolling".
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MrKnickerbocker said:
Catholic Trumpers: “Democrats are godless people! Jesus is Lord!”

Trump posts picture and literally says he should be the pope.

“Hahahahahaha what a prankster! Hail Jesus! Praise Dear Leader!”
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But we all know, had Biden done something like that the same people cheering on Trump would be having meltdowns. It's pure hypocrisy.
 
I'll be honest, I think you're all falling in Trump's trap. He doesn't want you to talk about how US citizens are being sent to concentration camps, people who are legally in the US are being persecuted by the state or how economic stability in the western world is being obliterated, so he posts a picture of himself as Pope, and you're all talking about that instead.
 
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