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MrKnickerbocker said:
This woman was targeted by ICE, so most likely she was the wrong color for Republicans to care about her rights or her life.
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Renee Good wasn't, and if you ask me, that's why this one is front and center on the news. ICE murdered Silverio Gonzalez in a suburb of Chicago back in September and while that made the news - I don't recall it being the lead story.

Orphaned a 4-to-5 year old boy too.
 
Ascendingthethrone said:
WTF is this?

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Trying to sell a bogus narrative that Democrats orchestrated the assault on the capital because, let me check my note card here...

"They wanted to stop the counting of electoral votes to prevent themselves from winning the White House?"
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Renee Good wasn't, and if you ask me, that's why this one is front and center on the news. ICE murdered Silverio Gonzalez in a suburb of Chicago back in September and while that made the news - I don't recall it being the lead story.

Orphaned a 4-to-5 year old boy too.
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This is Trump’s America. And nothing will come of it. The agents will be spared, probably given a raise, and this will happen again.

What a pathetic country we are becoming.
 
And in other domestic news besides [gesticulates], the Supreme Court may be issuing their ruling on the tariffs on Friday. During arguments during the hearing regarding them, there appeared to be skepticism from the conservative wing and some of those said justices seemed adamant that tax revenue must be raised from Congress, not from the oval. Of course, it's this Supreme Court, so who knows what the hell they'll actually do. A lot of the current budget priced the projected tariff revenue in, so, we'll see what happens if they do indeed get struck down.
 
Trevoire said:
Footage is doing the rounds on social media.

Car was blocking the street.
ICE drive up, get out of their truck and say "get out of the fucking car"
Car goes to drive away, ICE open fire and kill her.

All happens in under 10 seconds.

They're trying to say she was "using her car as a weapon to kill federal agents"

Where are all the second amendment Republicans who want to defend from a tyrannical government?

They're kidnapping and killing people on the streets. Not tyrannical enough yet? Or was it just the usual Rambo cosplay bullshit so idiots can keep their pew pews?
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People have gone through the footage frame-by-frame. The ICE scum wasn't in any danger, was beside the car and shot through the driver's side window. It was an execution, plain and simple, and he's going to get away with it.

Every single person who voted for Trump has blood on their hands.
 
Ascendingthethrone said:
It is weird to think that the greatest military alliance in the world will end because a US president is a highly compromised Russian asset.
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How's that? Financial Times just reported that US seized a Russian flagged ship. This is an act of war and something that clearly an "asset" wouldn't do to its owner.
No US president will be another county's asset in 2026, let alone Russia's, please be reasonable. The level of propaganda spread by supposed reputable sources is sickening.

Trump is a weak president, yes, he's proven to be another neocon, yes, he's selfish, he's flawed but he is sure as fuck a patriot. And in no case anyone's asset.
And it's not about Trump. No US president in 2026 can be another country's asset. US has gone low but not that low. Not by any stretch of imagination.
 
____no5 said:
How's that? Financial Times just reported that US seized a Russian flagged ship. This is an act of war and something that clearly an "asset" wouldn't do to its owner.
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Or this is choreographed with Russia, to help Trump wash away that image going into the midterms. Their response to it has been muted, and even their Venezuela responses seem like feigned outrage.
It wouldn't be the first time they'd help him out with his Russian Asset chip, since Putin repeatedly has pretended he wouldn't want Trump as President because he'd be "tougher" than Harris or Biden.

Just that, choreography, is central to the 2nd Trump administration; we have seen it with the ICE raids that according to WH email correspondance have had media producers on the ground. We have seen it with him turning signing EOs into rally events etcetera etcetera. We have also seen that the Trump administration works very hard at creating alternate realities and to hide things from the public and from their allies.


And "sure as fuck a patriot". This is the single most tragically funny thing I have read. A patriot who wanted to shred the Constitution. A patriot who argued in court that he does not need to uphold the Constitution. A patriot who calls 50% of the country vermin and similar demonizing slurs. A patriot who tears down US institutions and crushes US's soft power. A patriot who collects bribes and engages in money schemes. What a patriot.
The only thing Trump would be a patriot of, is Trumpistan, because everything is centered around him, him and him.
 
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____no5 said:
How's that? Financial Times just reported that US seized a Russian flagged ship. This is an act of war and something that clearly an "asset" wouldn't do to its owner.
No US president will be another county's asset in 2026, let alone Russia's, please be reasonable. The level of propaganda spread by supposed reputable sources is sickening.

Trump is a weak president, yes, he's proven to be another neocon, yes, he's selfish, he's flawed but he is sure as fuck a patriot. And in no case anyone's asset.
And it's not about Trump. No US president in 2026 can be another country's asset. US has gone low but not that low. Not by any stretch of imagination.
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Patriot? Trump? He has never cared about anything in his entire life except himself. He couldn't care less about America and he proves that every single day with his words and actions.

He's a deeply compromised Russian puppet. You're in for a very rude awakening if you still haven't realized how far the world's mightiest superpower has fallen.
 
____no5 said:
How's that? Financial Times just reported that US seized a Russian flagged ship. This is an act of war and something that clearly an "asset" wouldn't do to its owner.
No US president will be another county's asset in 2026, let alone Russia's, please be reasonable. The level of propaganda spread by supposed reputable sources is sickening.

Trump is a weak president, yes, he's proven to be another neocon, yes, he's selfish, he's flawed but he is sure as fuck a patriot. And in no case anyone's asset.
And it's not about Trump. No US president in 2026 can be another country's asset. US has gone low but not that low. Not by any stretch of imagination.
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True, but those who are deeply invested in the conspiracy theory that Trump is literally on the payroll of Putin will not brook any evidence to the contrary. Even when Trump's US has just unilaterally taken out a key Russian ally in Maduro, implicitly supported the overthrow of Assad last year and is certainly agitating for regime overthrow in Iran. Even the seizure of the tanker is presented as a '4d-chess' move co-ordinated between Washington and the Kremlin to throw everyone off the scent.

As to whether the Orange Man is a patriot, I'm not so sure, I think his ego is just that great that any country he is in charge of has to be the greatest of all time, the best, yuge, and he will act drastically and often foolishly in order to posture in this fashion. In this manner, he is also extremely susceptible to flattery and manipulation at the hands of Putin, Netanyahu etc.
 
UpTheIrons said:
Even the seizure of the tanker is presented as a '4d-chess' move co-ordinated between Washington and the Kremlin to throw everyone off the scent.
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Because that is quite literally the Trump playbook. And when has Trump ever really engaged in a fight with an equal? He caves to the strong and terrorizes the weaker instead, same as every other bully. Few actually believe he is actually paid by Russia, but he is cut from the same cloth as Putin, who just so happens when all is said and done, siding with him on most things for 10 years.
The odd time he actually did pick a fight, with China, he backed down with the tail between his legs. Letting the U.S. seize the ship is in line with the Kremlin's broader political goals, their interest of having Trump wreck the U.S. aside - the world divided into spheres of influence, in which the strong can do what they will and the general dismantling of international rules; Venezuela is in the (by Trump) stipulated U.S. sphere of interest.
 
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Yax said:
Or this is choreographed with Russia, to help Trump wash away that image going into the midterms. Their response to it has been muted, and even their Venezuela responses seem like feigned outrage.
It wouldn't be the first time they'd help him out with his Russian Asset chip, since Putin repeatedly has pretended he wouldn't want Trump as President because he'd be "tougher" than Harris or Biden.
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Oh come on don't fall for this. There's no 4D chess not in this planet.

UpTheIrons said:
As to whether the Orange Man is a patriot, I'm not so sure, I think his ego is just that great that any country he is in charge of has to be the greatest of all time, the best, yuge, and he will act drastically and often foolishly in order to posture in this fashion. In this manner, he is also extremely susceptible to flattery and manipulation at the hands of Putin, Netanyahu etc.
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He is enormously flawed, very vulernable to flattery and to neocons but I believe he means meant good for America. He had good intentions, great mandate, he had a second chance, armoured with the wisdom of the first failure and he still failed. All due to his flawed character and egomania.

I don't think he is manipulated by Netanyahu at all, just by the lobby. Between him and Putin, they both try to manipulate each other but in my eyes Trump wins as Putin's position has definitely weaken inside Russia since Trump was elected.
 
____no5 said:
Oh come on don't fall for this. There's no 4D chess not in this planet.



He is enormously flawed, very vulernable to flattery and to neocons but I believe he means meant good for America. He had good intentions, great mandate, he had a second chance, armoured with the wisdom of the first failure and he still failed. All due to his flawed character and egomania.
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Elaborate. When has Trump ever shown concern for the US? When has he ever shown interest in something beyond himself?


____no5 said:
I don't think he is manipulated by Netanyahu at all, just by the lobby. Between him and Putin, they both try to manipulate each other but in my eyes Trump wins as Putin's position has definitely weaken inside Russia since Trump was elected.
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lol. lmao even.
 
Yax said:
His slogan is MAGA. Duh.
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Well, of course!

I'm still deciding which democratic country is my favorite between the Democratic Republic of the Kongo and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
 
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I literally don't think Trump can differentiate between things that are good for him personally and things that are good for the US.
He's so self centered and his ego is so huge that he just automatically assumes anything good for him is automatically good for the whole country.
 
Trevoire said:
I literally don't think Trump can differentiate between things that are good for him personally and things that are good for the US.
He's so self centered and his ego is so huge that he just automatically assumes anything good for him is automatically good for the whole country.
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I think he very well can differentiate - he just does not care about anybody but himself and extentions of himself (such as legacy and family).
 
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