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I suspect we will be feeling the Johnson one way or another in this election ..

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He has the Libertarian nod, eh? I suspect they will get a much higher percentage than normal if Trump wins the GOP nomination...at this rate, hell, even if he doesn't.

The GOP is fucked.
 
I don't know if he actually got nominated or not .. but I assume he will if he wants it. If I were in a state that actually has some doubt over who wins, I would probably vote GOP (whoever it is), but I am not and I'll go the "none of the above" route by voting Libertarian
 
Nothing wrong with that. Though Texas could be in play if the Trump hate is all over the place, in a wave year.
 
No way Texas is in play this year or in the reasonably near future. Hillary is not a wave candidate and it is coming off 8 years of a Democratic administration.
 
bearfan said:
No way Texas is in play this year or in the reasonably near future. Hillary is not a wave candidate and it is coming off 8 years of a Democratic administration.
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I tend to agree. I think Trump is worth 5 points on 2012 for the Democratic candidate, which would put Texas in 10 points, but not in play.
 
The question is what is Hillary worth ... she took a turn left and I think she will have problems with moderate Dems who may go Trump (especially white moderate Dems) or just sit out. Also have a hard time believing she will get the same participation rate with black voters as Obama has (or even the same percentage for that matter) which is huge in Virginia, NC, and Florida
 
Yup, which cannot really come soon enough and again I will be really happy I live here and avoid campaign ads for the most part. I was in Colorado on October before the last election, we flipped on the news in the morning and it was ad after ad after ad ... would drive me nuts.
 
I was watching Wheel of Fortune with my parents on a Detroit station just before the primary in Michigan and it was just insane...and that was for a primary, I can't imagine how crazy it would be for a general.

Glad my elections aren't like that at all.
 
I would probably vote 3rd party too if I didn't find Trump so threatening.
 
The monopoly the two major parties hold on the electoral system in America will always justify a third-party vote as a waste, even if you don't account for tactical voting.
 
RTC said:
The monopoly the two major parties hold on the electoral system in America will always justify a third-party vote as a waste, even if you don't account for tactical voting.
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Pretty much ... Perot had the best run, but he ended up with 0 electoral votes. I think Bloomberg strongly considered a run this time, but realized he had zero chance to win.
 
RTC said:
The monopoly the two major parties hold on the electoral system in America will always justify a third-party vote as a waste, even if you don't account for tactical voting.
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Not true, if a third party gets a significant enough amount of votes, that can impact policy decisions by the two major parties.
 
Mosh said:
Not true, if a third party gets a significant enough amount of votes, that can impact policy decisions by the two major parties.
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In the UK, with the emergence of UKIP, sure. But with the centurial+ dominance of Democrats and Republicans in America, third-parties don't stand a chance. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two parties that receive the most backing through the media, financially and socially, and this is by a country mile. Third parties are close to ignored completely, and can never gain enough purchase to warrant said significant amount of votes.
 
The only time this has really happened in recent history (int he US) was Perot and an emphasis on the deficit as an issue ... and that did not really last very long.
 
Honestly, if there was any election to generate anything remotely close to traction for a third party like Bloomberg, it would be this one.
 
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