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CLINTON STAFFERS CIRCULATE 'DRESSED' OBAMA
Mon Feb 25 2008 06:51:00 ET

With a week to go until the Texas and Ohio primaries, stressed Clinton staffers circulated a photo over the weekend of a "dressed" Barack Obama.

The photo, taken in 2006, shows the Democrat frontrunner fitted as a Somali Elder, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya.

The senator was on a five-country tour of Africa.

"Wouldn't we be seeing this on the cover of every magazine if it were HRC?" questioned one campaign staffer, in an email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

In December, the campaign asked one of its volunteer county coordinators in Iowa to step down after the person forwarded an e-mail falsely stating that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe quickly accused the Clinton campaign Monday of 'shameful offensive fear-mongering' for circulating the snap.

Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams responds: "If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed."


http://drudgereport.com/flashoa.htm

how pathetic ... :mad:
 
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Nader is in it for his own personal ego, and nothing more.

On every single issue where Nader has stated his position, he is in 100% agreement with Obama's positions.
If he really wanted to see those positions put into policy, he'd be supporting Obama, who at least has a realistic chance of winning.

He still claims the same thing he said in 2000: that there are no differences between the Dems and Repubs because they're both controlled by corporations.
The difference is: no one believes that anymore.

And if age is an issue for McCain, then it's even more so for Nader, who is 2 years older than McCain.

In short, Nader is a whining crybaby who wants to see his name in the papers.
 
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James Earl Jones: This....is LCNN.

Time for an LCNN US Presidential Race update!  Crucial Tuesday has passed and only some things are more clear.  On the Republican side, John McCain has clinched the presidential nomination with wins in all four states.  On the Democratic side...it's a horserace.

Barack Obama won the Texas Caucus and the state of Vermont, while Hillary Clinton won the Texas Primary, as well as the states of Ohio and Rhode Island.

Texas hands out its delegates in an extremely confusing way.  2/3rds of pledged delegates are tied to the primary, but 1/3rd are tied to a caucus.  Hillary narrowly won the the primary and got around +4 delegates from that.  However, Barack won the caucus by a large margin (at least 10 points) so he wins about +6 delegates.  The result: even though Hillary won Texas's vote, Barack gets more delegates!

Hillary did make up some ground on Tuesday, but that ground will likely be eroded today and Tuesday, as Wyoming and Mississippi come up for grabs.  Both states are likely to vote Obama in a big way, and make up the +10 delegates Hillary got, keeping his lead at at least 100+ delegates for now.  Pennsylvania is the next race, and that's April 22nd.
 
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Obama, the winner on words
By Tirdad Derakhshani / Inquirer Staff Writer

If there's a lesson to learn from the struggle between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, it's that when it comes to presidential elections, rhetoric - specifically, values talk - will trump policy talk anytime.
It's a lesson that Republicans learned two decades ago from Ronald Reagan's strategy guru Richard Wirthlin, who discovered that people who did not agree with Reagan's specific policies still voted for him, because they prized his values - honesty, integrity, steadfastness.

Language experts say it's a strange, counterintuitive point that continued to elude Clinton Tuesday during the 20th and last scheduled Democratic presidential debate in Cleveland, when she continued to criticize Obama for offering voters inspirational speech instead of actual policy.

On the eve of Tuesday's primaries in Ohio and Texas, which are considered must-wins for Clinton, it bears asking: Why has Obama so baffled the presumptive heir to the White House?

"Obama has hijacked the language of values from the Republicans," said linguist William Lutz, who taught at Rutgers University in Camden before retiring. "What people care about isn't how you can micromanage health care," Lutz said, referring to a 16-minute exchange Tuesday during which Clinton assiduously tried to prove the superiority of her proposed health care agenda.

"What people do care about is for you to acknowledge you're for universal health care because you believe in fairness," Lutz said. "And Obama kept hitting that point."

Steven Poole, the author of Unspeak, a study of political language, said Clinton lost the forest for the trees when she "tried to emphasize small differences" in the two health care programs. Obama, by contrast, "managed to step outside or rise above the adversarial context to point out that their plans have a lot in common," said Poole, a British critic.

Lutz and some other critics say Obama has dominated the primary race because he is able to communicate a cohesive vision, while Clinton seems intent on proving that because she is a brilliant, experienced policy wonk, she is eminently capable of doing the job, from "Day One."

Poole said ironically, it was Obama who came off as more presidential - because he said so. "During the whole debate, Obama referred to himself as the future president 11 times. Clinton did it only four times," he said. "Someone who can repeatedly and with confidence refer to himself as president is likely to give an impression of more authority."

By doing so, Poole said, Obama went "over Clinton's head. Instead of speaking to her, he [aimed] directly at the viewer."

Obama's ability to remain unflappable in the face of criticism and to rise above the fray was nowhere more evident than when moderator Tim Russert asked him if he accepted Louis Farrakhan's endorsement. When Obama said he had repeatedly denounced Farrakhan because of his "anti-Semitic comments," Clinton accused him of being too soft because he did not reject the Nation of Islam leader but merely denounced him.

"Then I'm happy to concede the point," Obama said, "and I would reject and denounce." The comeback was both conciliatory and sharp - it made Clinton look petty, noted David Perlmutter, a dean at the University of Kansas' School of Journalism and Mass Communications.

For theologian Cleophus J. LaRue of Princeton Theological Seminary, Obama proved that he embodies what it means to be the president.

"His tone, his language, his demeanor - they all reflect what he has been arguing all along are the qualities of the president," said LaRue, author of the 1999 book The Heart of Black Preaching. "He was conciliatory in tone, showing that he would bring the country together" across political, racial and class divides.

LaRue said Obama's true significance lies in the fact that he has become part of a social-political movement that is much larger than himself.

"For years people have said they wanted a different kind of politics. . . . and Obama has tapped into that. And yet, it's gone beyond him," LaRue said. "In a sense he got in front of a parade that's already down the street."

So what of Clinton's charge that Obama offers nothing but empty rhetoric?

Lutz cited the work of Berkeley linguist George Lakoff, who has written that rhetoric - the metaphors and stories we use to define ourselves - expresses our fundamental moral worldview. And all of our decisions, including policy decisions, will follow from this moral framework, Lakoff says.

University of Pennsylvania political scientist Anne Norton said there was nothing frivolous or irrational about voting for a candidate according to his or her values-talk.

"People do pay attention to the issues and they really care about them," she said. "But they recognize the presidency" is not just a job, but "also plays a symbolic value."

Obama made this point when he told Clinton that inspirational speech was a vital part of the job, since in order to bring about real, meaningful political change, "we're going to have to mobilize and inspire the American people so that they're paying attention to what their government is doing."

Norton said Clinton's complicated history muddied her potential to symbolize the empowerment of women.

"When Clinton talks about her experience, she includes her time as the first lady," Norton said. "But that weakens her position, because she was in the White House as a wife. . . . and later as a victim" in the Monica Lewinsky scandal. "This diminishes her independence."

Norton said that by contrast, Obama, who is less tainted by his history as a public figure, represented a powerful historical promise.

"Americans grew up hearing, 'We shall overcome, someday.' When Americans see Obama they think that day could be someday soon.

"But," Norton said, "this also imposes a burden. Americans are asking him to represent their redemption."
 
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Genghis Khan said:
Obama's speech skills and level-headedness are continuing to impress me.

I have to agree with that.  There are times that I thought he would lose his 'cool' and do something stupid.  Mostly, however, he has done a very good job of inspiring people to vote for him.  I also think he 'oozes' change, and that is something that people are craving badly.
 
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I did rather like his reply to Hillary going after him for just "denouncing" Louis Farrakhan.
 
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I had missed that, so after reading your comment, I went to find out about it.  You are correct, it was an excellent response to Hilary.  And, unfortunatly for her, she had a golden opportunity to really dig him on the whole ordeal, and missed it.  She actually seemed to allow him to recover from his prior statements, and then agreed that his 'rejecting and denouncing' was "...good, good. Excellent."  Sometimes it seems as if she is trying to hand him the victory.  Almost reminiscent of the way George HW seemed to bail out of the '92 election.  -- Don't misunderstand me, I think she is still trying, but misses some good chances.
 
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LooseCannon said:
I did rather like his reply to Hillary going after him for just "denouncing" Louis Farrakhan.

Criticisms of Obama by Hillary such as that one go a long way to show how much moralizing, right-wing influence she actually has.
 
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I'm not a Hilary fan, but in her defense, she did have a point-- she just skrewed it all up.  Obama was (IMO) completely dancing around the subject of accepting/rejecting Farrakhan's support.  Brian Williams pretty much asked him point blank 'accept or reject' and Obama did some slick moves to side step.  When Hilary called him on it, she started sounding fine, but then she garbled it all up and gave him the opening that he needed to make her look foolish.
 
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I really think the whole thing was a brilliant play by Obama to trick Hillary into looking like a douchebag.  And I think he often comes out on top of most similar exchanges.
 
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Barack Obama: 'A More Perfect Union' (Full Speech - 37 minutes / March 18, 2008 - Philadelphia, PA )

Impressive speech. Genuine, subtle, serious, open, moving and wise.
 
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Impressive  :) He's realy charmfull as he speaks -and this is the first time I see him developing a full speech
 
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Even though it is too early to wonder, I thought this "hint" by Obama might be worthwhile to ponder.  What if Al Gore were the next VP, again?  Perhaps, this is Obama's sly way of saying "yeah, I've got the man you wanted as president on MY side -- so vote for me!"

Obama hints at partnership with Gore
Last Updated: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 | 4:21 PM ET Comments6Recommend20
The Associated Press

U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Wednesday that he talks regularly with former vice-president Al Gore, and would consider him for a cabinet-level position or higher if elected president.

The revelation came at a town hall event in Wallingford, Pa., when a woman asked Obama if he would consider tapping Gore for a position to address global warming.

Obama, running for the Democrat nomination against Hillary Clinton, said he would, adding that Gore would be "at the table" playing a central role in solving the problem of climate change.

Obama, an Illinois senator, has repeatedly said it is too early to discuss potential vice-presidents since the nomination has not been won.

It's also not clear if Gore — who was vice-president for eight years under Democrat president Bill Clinton — would want that job again.

Since leaving the White House, Gore has become one of the world's leading voices for combating the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming. His work earned him a shared Nobel Peace Prize last year.

Gore is perhaps the single most coveted endorsement up for grabs in tight competition between Obama and Clinton, a New York Senator and former first lady who is married to Bill Clinton.
© The Canadian Press, 2008

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/04/02/obama-gore.html
 
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I'm trying hard not to think of her.
 
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Perun said:
I'm trying hard not to think of her.

I don't like her either, contrary to all my collegues, that wish her to be president
one great part of our salaries is paid in dollars,
and everyone thinks that with her dollar will be strong again
as it was when Bill was in charge

the fact is that this civil war between democrats makes republicans stronger  :(
 
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