The length of time between NEW ORIGINAL albums.

snake plissken said:
Maiden needed a year off after 7th tour of a 7th tour. That was over 20 years ago, fatigue is absolutely a factor these days.
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The only complete years off in Maiden's career were 1989, 1994 and 1997. Off in the sense of no concerts, no albums.

Every following year Maiden had activities (concerts). So, we haven't seen the same amount of such "fatigue" in later years.

Since 1998, Maiden kept releasing albums every 2, 3 or 4 years and imo only DOD was clearly less good in the post-Blaze cycle, compared to the others. Still: "only" three years after DOD we had AMOLAD which was really strong.

TFF took longer to come out, but was it a better album? First I thought so, but now I am not sure anymore.

This is why I don't see why they need even more time to to get the same quality for an album. I doubt if time in between releases has anything to do with it.
 
Forostar said:
The only complete years off in Maiden's career were 1989, 1994 and 1997. Off in the sense of no concerts, no albums.

Every following year Maiden had activities (concerts). So, we haven't seen the same amount of such "fatigue" in later years.

Since 1998, Maiden kept releasing albums every 2, 3 or 4 years and imo only DOD was clearly less good in the post-Blaze cycle, compared to the others. Still: "only" three years after DOD we had AMOLAD which was really strong.

TFF took longer to come out, but was it a better album? First I thought so, but now I am not sure anymore.

This is why I don't see why they need even more time to to get the same quality for an album. I doubt if time in between releases has anything to do with it.
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LOL I was agreeing with your previous post and you're still trying to disagree with me  :S When you said "Nah, time in between albums is spent because of other reasons." I found myself nodding in agreement. Fatigue is one of those reasons and the band have said as much. There's also a desire to spend time with family (possibly grand kids) which is a completely acceptable reason to take a lot of time off. While I doubt it'll be 5 years to the next album, I do think the best we can hope for is early 2014.
 
I am not necessarily trying to disagree with you for that sake. When I read back I am not sure at all if we agree but does that matter?

Let's just say you triggered me to make my previous explanation a bit more complete.  :)

snake plissken said:
While I doubt it'll be 5 years to the next album, I do think the best we can hope for is early 2014.
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Yes, this I find more likely than 2015. I still hold open 2013 as a possibility. AMOLAD showed me that it's possible.
 
I'd be happy with a 3 song ep sometime before next summer. That way they could play a new song or two and not have to feel that they are becoming a cabaret act.
 
Habberdasher said:
I'd be happy with a 3 song ep sometime before next summer. That way they could play a new song or two and not have to feel that they are becoming a cabaret act.
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I think the fact that their latest original album was a massive worldwide success and the tour that followed was equally successful should make them feel they are still relevant. A three song ep will do nothing to convince idiots that they're not a cabaret act. Thankfully Maiden don't really care what anyone else thinks and will tour however the hell they want to.
 
Maiden toured so much in the last couple of years that I wouldn't be surprised if 2012 would be their 4th off year.
Time for a break. Then in 2013 another studio album.
 
Forostar said:
Less short breaks between studio albums. I do not mind if their tours are shorter, but I hope we don't need to wait another 4 -or worse- 5 years.
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The problem is that their USA tours are already too short. I predict another history type tour next year followed by a new album in 2014.
 
Habberdasher said:
I'd be happy with a 3 song ep sometime before next summer. That way they could play a new song or two and not have to feel that they are becoming a cabaret act.
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I'm with you.

Release a new album and take two years off.


They are far beyong needing to "support" a new album via touring.

I'm sure that they will, some day, get to that place and enjoy both their retirement years, AND the fruits of their studio time, by releasing albums without needing to tour in support of those albums.
(Oh, we should get some great songs when they are in that stage -- H will have all the time in the world to "tune-up" each and every note of every song  :lol:)
And once in a great while, they can casually do a 20 date tour, if they so wish.


To the thread-starter, Maiden are probably slightly fearful of losing fans if they were to slow down in the way I've described.
So, they relax in-between NEW albums via doing "classic" tours. "No brainers" for them playing songs they know automatically as H says. They could go on auto pilot if they wanted.
 
Darth Maiden said:
I'm with you.

Release a new album and take two years off.


They are far beyong needing to "support" a new album via touring.

I'm sure that they will, some day, get to that place and enjoy both their retirement years, AND the fruits of their studio time, by releasing albums without needing to tour in support of those albums.
(Oh, we should get some great songs when they are in that stage -- H will have all the time in the world to "tune-up" each and every note of every song  :lol:)
And once in a great while, they can casually do a 20 date tour, if they so wish.


To the thread-starter, Maiden are probably slightly fearful of losing fans if they were to slow down in the way I've described.
So, they relax in-between NEW albums via doing "classic" tours. "No brainers" for them playing songs they know automatically as H says. They could go on auto pilot if they wanted.
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Right, it is easy to play songs they know in their sleep.

I completely agree about the studio albums not needing a "push" for sales via a live show. (I was there when no one knew the 'AMOLAD' album, and were pissed about "no classics, man!". So, that tour did ZERO for sales of 'A Matter...'
However, I fear that Maiden are so completely of the belief that they are a live band, that they will never record without supporting it.
I believe they can and should, but, I doubt that they will ever believe in themselves that much.

I'm with Habberdasher! (and you Darth) in wanting a 3-song mini ep. That would be fantastic.

And while we are dreaming,  :lol: I would love for H to make some Synth songs, if only for B-sides.  :edmetal:


But, yes, I totally believe that Maiden could, and should make studio albums to hold over fans while they take their much deserved breaks and rest. That will hold me over FAR, FAR more than a new, re-packaged best-of cd.  :uhm:


hmmmmmmmm, a new thread is forming ....
Forostar said:
Maiden toured so much in the last couple of years that I wouldn't be surprised if 2012 would be their 4th off year.
Time for a break. Then in 2013 another studio album.
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I wish that you were right.
2013 would be awesome.

However,


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they are going to spend 3 years making the big bucks by re-visiting the "7th son days".

They will push the original album 'Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son' thru the release of 'Maiden England' on DVD. (which will include 'The History Of Iron Maiden - part 3'
That will take a year to do.
This will prime fans everywhere for the actual live-in-person shows called (I'm guessing here) '7th tour of a 7th tour', or did they call the original that???

Then we will spend a year, year-and-a-half, celebrating that tour with the latest DVD;
'Flight 777'.
Then, if they rest while that movie is being pushed / marketed, we might possibly see them hit the studio for their official final album in 2015.

But, they will then have a "retirement sucks" return and do a classic best-of set-list and then we might get one more album for our greedy little collections  :smartarse:

So, what says you 'bout them apples?
:bigsmile:


So we are probably looking at 2016, to be realistic.
Very sad but true.
 
Darth Maiden said:
I'm with you.

Release a new album and take two years off.


They are far beyong needing to "support" a new album via touring.

I'm sure that they will, some day, get to that place and enjoy both their retirement years, AND the fruits of their studio time, by releasing albums without needing to tour in support of those albums.
(Oh, we should get some great songs when they are in that stage -- H will have all the time in the world to "tune-up" each and every note of every song  :lol:)
And once in a great while, they can casually do a 20 date tour, if they so wish.


To the thread-starter, Maiden are probably slightly fearful of losing fans if they were to slow down in the way I've described.
So, they relax in-between NEW albums via doing "classic" tours. "No brainers" for them playing songs they know automatically as H says. They could go on auto pilot if they wanted.
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If Maiden get to a point where they stop touring a new album, they'll pull the plug IMO. Touring is a massive part of this band, it's what they love to do which is why it takes so much out of them. They give it everything on that stage. Doubt they'd bother "phoning it in" on classic tours just to keep going. In fact I'm sure they'd hate this idea. They're too genuine for it.
 
I think Maiden is going to release an album in 2013. I really do. Maybe 2014 but not as late as 2015.
 
The Flash said:
I think Maiden is going to release an album in 2013. I really do. Maybe 2014 but not as late as 2015.
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PLEASE expand this thought.

What is your basis of leaning towards this?
I think Navigator is correct.
It goes with what they have been doing since "The Early Days".
snake plissken said:
If Maiden get to a point where they stop touring a new album, they'll pull the plug IMO. Touring is a massive part of this band, it's what they love to do which is why it takes so much out of them. They give it everything on that stage. Doubt they'd bother "phoning it in" on classic tours just to keep going. In fact I'm sure they'd hate this idea. They're too genuine for it.
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Studio albums are not "GENUINE"?


Like some others have said in here, Maiden have earned their rest and their status. They need to prove nothing. So, why not go this route?
You are extremely correct in the case of them being a "live band". They love it by no comparison to recording.
So, you think that they can't separate the two?
 
Darth Maiden said:
What is your basis of leaning towards this?
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I think Navigator is correct.
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It's the opinion of The Flash. What basis do you have for assuming NavigatorsSon is any more correct in his guess work? --which is what it is. If you read his original post (edited five days after originally posting it) he stated "2015". Now he's saying 2016. What guess do you think is correct? And, why do you agree? The "plan" is an invention; a best guess --as other fan club members (not myself, I don't know) have stated. It's all guess work. Nobody has any "evidence" leaning one way or the other. So I'm not sure it's particularly fruitful to prop up all this guess work with ifs & maybes. Take up knitting... :D
 
Darth Maiden said:
PLEASE expand this thought.

What is your basis of leaning towards this?
I think Navigator is correct.
It goes with what they have been doing since "The Early Days".

Studio albums are not "GENUINE"?


Like some others have said in here, Maiden have earned their rest and their status. They need to prove nothing. So, why not go this route?
You are extremely correct in the case of them being a "live band". They love it by no comparison to recording.
So, you think that they can't separate the two?
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I think they could separate the two but I don't think they would want to.
 
Indeed. The distinction is not what they could do, just what folks think they will do.

But, as Darth Maiden says, why not go [down] this route? It would be pretty good if they did (to stretch the end a little further), but I'm not sure if anyone really thinks this is likely; do they? (--recording mucic, but not playing live.)
 
CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Indeed. The distinction is not what they could do, just what folks think they will do.

But, as Darth Maiden says, why not go [down] this route? It would be pretty good if they did (to stretch the end a little further), but I'm not sure if anyone really thinks this is likely; do they? (--recording mucic, but not playing live.)
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That was my point. No chance Maiden will just sit around in a recording studio.
 
:yey: YEY!!!  :yey:

We all get to wait 4 or 5 years for new stuff.

:yey: YEY!!!  :yey:


WHOO HOO!


At least 5 years wait will guarantee a good album as opposed to a weak one.
Maiden don't have it in them to write 8 new songs, let alone anything of worth before 4 years time.

They are only valid as a live band anyways. (if and when they are playing "Classics")


Oh well, "Up the Irons Dude"!  :edmetal:
 
Darth Maiden said:
:yey: YEY!!!  :yey:

We all get to wait 4 or 5 years for new stuff.

:yey: YEY!!!  :yey:


WHOO HOO!


At least 5 years wait will guarantee a good album as opposed to a weak one.
Maiden don't have it in them to write 8 new songs, let alone anything of worth before 4 years time.

They are only valid as a live band anyways. (if and when they are playing "Classics")


Oh well, "Up the Irons Dude"!  :edmetal:
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How much caffeine do you take? Whatever the amount I'd halve it ;)

I know it's hard for people to get their heads around it but Maiden have lives outside music. Families, friends and God knows what else. They are also pretty old. So if it takes 5 years then so be it. For the record, I prefer he current Maiden to "classic" Maiden but I have absolutely no problem with them doing 80's tours. I never saw them live in the 80's so I'd be happy to see them play those songs live.
 
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