bearfan
Ancient Mariner
That was technically the TFF tour, devoid of TFF songs except for El Dorado as the album had not been released yet. I enjoyed the show quite a bit, but beyond 2 dates in FL, the US never got a proper TFF tour.
The inevitable 1990s tour after Book of Souls Tour ends
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JudasMyGuide
Ancient Mariner
Also I've met a lot of people who dismiss anything from the Blaze era simply because it's Blaze, without giving it a second chance, and while FOTD and NPFTD might have had chart success back in the day, nowadays I come across too many people complaining about both records, whether it's here, other metal fora, friends and family, Metal Archives ( 
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Counting in the lot who hate Janick in general, I sometimes get the feeling we who appreciate the 90's era might be in the minority, so my comments might reflect that. However, in the end it's only my opinion.
)...Counting in the lot who hate Janick in general, I sometimes get the feeling we who appreciate the 90's era might be in the minority, so my comments might reflect that. However, in the end it's only my opinion.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Also I've met a lot of people who dismiss anything from the Blaze era simply because it's Blaze, without giving it a second chance, and while FOTD and NPFTD might have had chart success back in the day, nowadays I come across too many people complaining about both records, whether it's here, other metal fora, friends and family, Metal Archives (
Counting in the lot who hate Janick in general, I sometimes get the feeling we who appreciate the 90's era might be in the minority, so my comments might reflect that. However, in the end it's only my opinion.
Fair point, but if you take it in options you either get
1) non-90s centric "history tour"
2) 90s tour
3) New album in tour
I would be cool with any of the three, but I think a and 3 are what I would prefer over 90s .. if they were all immortal and could do this forever, I would say bring it all on. But since that is not the case, it is a matter of priorities
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
I enjoyed it a lot. Loved it, actually. More than the proper TFF show one year later. Not mainly for setlist reasons, though - the whole experience was special to me.
JudasMyGuide
Ancient Mariner
Fair point, but if you take it in options you either get
1) non-90s centric "history tour"
2) 90s tour
3) New album in tour
I would be cool with any of the three, but I think a and 3 are what I would prefer over 90s .. if they were all immortal and could do this forever, I would say bring it all on. But since that is not the case, it is a matter of priorities
Considering I probably won't attend any concerts in the foreseeable future because of my ever-present panic attacks, it's moot for me anyway
I agree that new album and tour is probably the best option anyway. However, if they were to do some kind of farewell tour, where they would play songs from every album, I'm sad to predict they would probably go for the obvious choices, that is Trooper for POM, WY/HCW for SIT, FOTD/ATSS for FOTD etc.As has been said elsewhere - they never play anything they haven't played on the original album tour and usually half of the setlist at least must be the classics.
Were I to attend it, the TBOS tour setlist as it is with, for example, To Tame a Land, Judas Be My Guide or The Unbeliever as a pleasant bonus would be absolutely okay with me.
StormTheTrooper
Running to the Hills
Well, if the boys were 5 years younger, it would've been a no brainer to do, at least, one leg dedicated to the 90s. After all, they played ATSS on the ME tour, Bring Your Daughter on Give me Ed...they don't see the 90s with despise.
The point here is that a year touring with 90s content-only it's one year less to do a new album, and the band wants to release another one (I think they are planning 2 more albums before calling it a day). If something happens, it'll be on the 2nd leg of the TBoS. Or never. Or I'll be damned surprised and in joy to see Sign of the Cross with full production
The point here is that a year touring with 90s content-only it's one year less to do a new album, and the band wants to release another one (I think they are planning 2 more albums before calling it a day). If something happens, it'll be on the 2nd leg of the TBoS. Or never. Or I'll be damned surprised and in joy to see Sign of the Cross with full production
Collin
Chasing Ponce De Leon's Phantoms
I could see a complete history tour. Kind like a combination of the last three with a bit of 90's stuff thrown in. By 90's stuff I mean Fear of the Dark. BYDTTS could maybe see a return too.
Something like this..
1. Aces High
2. Two Minutes to Midnight
3. Wrathchild
4. Revelations
5. Phantom of the Opera
6. The Trooper
7. Number of the Beast
8. Heaven Can Wait
9.Wasted Years
10. Can I Play With Madness
11. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
12. Evil That Men Do
13. Fear of the Dark
14. Iron Maiden
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15. Hallowed be Thy Name
16. Run to the Hills
17. Running Free
But then it looks a lot like the Maiden England tour.
Something like this..
1. Aces High
2. Two Minutes to Midnight
3. Wrathchild
4. Revelations
5. Phantom of the Opera
6. The Trooper
7. Number of the Beast
8. Heaven Can Wait
9.Wasted Years
10. Can I Play With Madness
11. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
12. Evil That Men Do
13. Fear of the Dark
14. Iron Maiden
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15. Hallowed be Thy Name
16. Run to the Hills
17. Running Free
But then it looks a lot like the Maiden England tour.
Poto
Ancient Mariner
I saw them in 2011, but not in 2010. If I could have changed that, I would have. 2011 was good, but looking back the 2010 setlist was quite special. But I understand that US fans must feel snubbed.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
I am not really complaining ... comparing the set lists, I like the one we got better (add to that, I saw the first show with BTATS versus WC and P versus DoD) ... but, the TFF songs seemed good live, especially Talisman and the title track ... I am guessing those will not be played again.
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Not seeing the TFF songs live was worth the tradeoff for what we did get IMO. I didn't get to see any of the new album tours so getting the highlights of all of them in one show kind of made up for that. The 2011 setlist was nowhere near as good IMO.
I was a bit disappointed with the songs they chose to play live from TFF anyway, so it wasn't a big deal to me. Would like to see Talisman or WTWWB at some point though.
I was a bit disappointed with the songs they chose to play live from TFF anyway, so it wasn't a big deal to me. Would like to see Talisman or WTWWB at some point though.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
That was a good show
'The Wicker Man'
'The Ghost Of The Navigator'
'Brighter Than a Thousand Suns'
'El Dorado'
'Paschendale'
'The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg'
'These Colours Don't Run'
'Blood Brothers'
'Wildest Dreams'
'No More Lies'
'Brave New World'
'Fear Of The Dark'
'Iron Maiden'
Encore:
'Number Of the Beast'
'Hallowed Be Thy Name'
'Running Free'
'The Wicker Man'
'The Ghost Of The Navigator'
'Brighter Than a Thousand Suns'
'El Dorado'
'Paschendale'
'The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg'
'These Colours Don't Run'
'Blood Brothers'
'Wildest Dreams'
'No More Lies'
'Brave New World'
'Fear Of The Dark'
'Iron Maiden'
Encore:
'Number Of the Beast'
'Hallowed Be Thy Name'
'Running Free'
The Mid-Distance Runner
Educated Fool
The US-leg of the TFF tour would have made an awesome live album and been a more exciting release than From Fear To Eternity which was more or less another redundant greatest hits.
And if not as a stand alone release the band could have included 4-5 sings as a bonus audio disc for the En Vivo DVD release. No that would have rocked!
And if not as a stand alone release the band could have included 4-5 sings as a bonus audio disc for the En Vivo DVD release. No that would have rocked!
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Emphasizing work of the nineties. I slept a night over this... and you know what? I think that is a chance. A chance for Maiden to let people enjoy these songs in a different environment. The dust would be wiped off. The negative cloud around these records, both in and after the Blaze era (e.g. the contrast between the hosanna atmosphere of Bruce and H's return and how people look(ed) at the nineties) would be blown away. The current line-up, with Bruce and Adrian, would bring these songs to the stage. The current line-up is loved very much and largely respected for what they do. A positive light would shine on these albums, and sales could even rise. The strength of a live performance can do a lot.
But, time is indeed their opponent.
But, time is indeed their opponent.
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StormTheTrooper
Running to the Hills
That's the point, the band have 6 or 7 years left before one of them (Nicko) call it quits and everyone follows.
In 6 years you can have 2 tour cycles, where one of it will be the Farewell Tour, featuring classics. So, unless Nicko plays until he's 75, which i don't believe, they'll have to choose between an album tour or a 90s tour.
Of course they could just replace Nicko, with his blessing. But someone posted once a interview where Steve says "if one of them retires, everyone will follow"
I would say that one thing the 90s era has going for it is more in common musically with what they're doing now than the 80s stuff. But I think the problem isn't so much that people dislike the 90s material as much as they just aren't aware of it (in the US). Most Maiden fans I know out here are most familiar with the first 5 albums, sometimes the two after, and very rarely anything from the 90s. I get that playing the material in a new light could help, but from the Maiden shows I've gone to it's very obvious that the majority of the audience only wants to hear songs they know. If they've never listened to those 90s songs before, they're probably not going to be interested regardless of how good it is. This was apparent both at the 2010 leg of the TFF tour and whenever they did a TBOS song at the show I saw for the current tour.
But again, that's just my experience seeing Maiden in the US, it's probably different in other countries (especially in South America).
But again, that's just my experience seeing Maiden in the US, it's probably different in other countries (especially in South America).
Outside of this forum and a couple of FB groups, I can't think of many people in the UK who are familiar with the Blaze stuff.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
... and of those .. how many actually like it (the Blaze part). In any case, it is hard to name a band with decades of longevity that does not have at least one period that is pretty much ignored by both the band and the large chunk of the fans. "new singer that came in for 2 albums that did not have much success" is generally a good candidate for such a period. At least Maiden played some Blaze stuff when Bruce came back and put some of it on live albums/the best of ... not 100% ignored, but not celebrated nearly as much as post/pre Bruce leaving