The Future Past Tour 2024

I'll be going to the Toronto show. If anyone from out of town has any questions about Toronto (or Montreal), let me know.

I'll likely do one other show in the US. Does anyone have a sense of what the odds of winning FTTB are in a bigger city (ie Chicago/Boston/Philly) compared to a smaller one (Minneapolis/Portland/SLC)?
 
Randalf said:
I'm not making my point clear very well, but I'm just trying to say that 1-2 setlist changes just for the sake of it wouldn't necessarily make things so much more better and interesting. It's totally different thing if we're speculating about some very interesting deep cuts or actual live debuts, but that seems extremely unlikely to begin with. And honestly, I'm all for more setlist variation, but unless the changes are really, really interesting, I'm totally fine with these thematic, carefully constructed setlists (LOTB 2018-19, Future Past...) staying the same for two years in a row: they have such a brilliant (albeit different, but that's just great!) flow and drama that I can see why those songs were picked and why they are (most likely) not going to be swapped.
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Don't get me wrong, I also like the tours to have a specific core of songs (unless it's a 3rd leg of a tour), but I was more making a point about past tours (2013/2014, 2011, etc). TFP setlist is almost perfect (no Parchment) and I would love a live video from the tour with those songs, but they could easily swap out CIPWM or Celts for the 2nd leg, if they want. Just giving some examples that may or may not fit the theme: Parchment, Darkest Hour, Clairvoyant, Sea Of Madness, a short song like Futureal. All are interesting changes. The deep cuts or live debuts usually should be saved for future tours.
Randalf said:
Well, yeah, but I don't think it's that big of a factor, especially since the song was originally called "The Great Wall" or something. :D It's the album opener and a title track, sure, but given the nature of the tour, I think The Writing on the Wall, The Time Machine, Hell on Earth and obviously some of the Somewhere in Time songs are even more essential and more than enough of a justification for a grandeur live release - which I hope we'll get! :) If it had a spot in the set, it would probably be where Celts is now, but without Bruce's introduction. Can't see it on the spot of The Time Machine as that song has such a significant connection to the tour concept & stage show and Bruce's introduction just underlines it.
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Because of the theme and stage set too. TWOTW, Hell On Earth, CSIT, SIASL, ATG and maybe DOFP are the essentials for the tour. Agreed about Celts spot and Time Machine.
Brazilian Benjamin Breeg said:
I believe the Senjutsu tracks are irreplaceable. DOTC stands out as the "live-made" song of the album, DOFP carries the tour's name. Time Machine integrates with the tour's theme, TWOTW is the single and main protagonist from the album (although three consecutive years playing it could be too much), and HOE remains the fan-favorite. The SiT segment perhaps has the same logic and I think no omitted songs present a compelling case to displace any of the current 5.
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Celts can be replaced with Parchment, which is one of the most liked songs from the album. As for the SIT songs, Wasted Years is a classic hit single from the album, while HCW has a noticeable stage prop and both songs are live favorites, so I agree.
Brazilian Benjamin Breeg said:
TWOTW is the single and main protagonist from the album (although three consecutive years playing it could be too much)
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TWOTW is the new live favorite from the newer songs, so it will stay for sure (plus there is a hint in the teaser video). For the next tour, I'm not sure.
 
Ascendingthethrone said:
As much as I would have preferred to have heard The Parchment live, I can see why they skipped it. Thematically and musically it is very similar to Alexander. Celts is a complete contrast.
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I don’t see the similarity between Alexander and The Parchment. Alexander has a singalong chorus and melodies, jumpy parts and more going on. The Parchment is good but it doesn't scream live setting to me.
 
Ascendingthethrone said:
As much as I would have preferred to have heard The Parchment live, I can see why they skipped it. Thematically and musically it is very similar to Alexander. Celts is a complete contrast.
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Thematically, yes. Musically, only in the singalong melodies. One has 6 solos, no chorus, more different melodies, not many fast parts - the other has a chorus, 2 solos, more live-ready bits. You could say the same about Book Of Souls and Powerslave in 2016/2017.

That being said, I understand that Celts has more live-ready parts.
Poto said:
The Parchment is good but it doesn't scream live setting to me.
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We will never know for sure unless they play it. I think it will work good live, like most Steve's songs.
 
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I love The Parchment. I would have loved to see it live. I'd still love to see it live. As far as the setlist & set flow goes, from the perspective of the crowd and the band, I think there are some factors that are indeed in favour of Death of the Celts:

The Parchment performance would've most likely been visually very similar to Alexander the Great, as we would have most likely got...
(- epic, unique backdrop of course!)
- lots of red light
- Bruce standing on the centre, concentrating on the lyrics

With Death of the Celts Bruce moves around and gives a great, narrative take on the lyrics that breaths a lot of new life to the song I found very stale on the album. Celts' structure is also very vocalist-friendly:

* introduction
* lots of singing within very comfortable range (this applies to The Parchment as well, of course)
* long break
* just a little bit of easy singing at the end and then to the AGNES! talk and the next song

Where as The Parchment would've come with...
* possible introduction
* some singing
* long break
* lots of singing, again
* another break
* move on the AGNES

It's not a huge difference, but I think Celts is slightly more "chill" song to pull off within relatively intense set, where as The Parchment (as much as I love the song itself more!) would've made the set slightly... in lack of a better word, heavier in every way.
 
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