A bit familiar to the intro in Out of the Silent Planet as well, another Janick/Steve track.8- Shadows Of The Valley: By now we all know that Maiden sometimes goes to far when it comes to recycling but even with that in mind Shadows Of The Valley's intro is on a league of his own. Making a copy of one of the band's most well known hits' intro and placing it at the beginning of other song is something that puzzles me.
Come on you know what I'm talking about. I mean... if at least it was an epic song... or any kind of prog like stuff it's ok for me. But no: this is a song with simple build that starts with an intro from other song, period! You don't see me criticizing Empire Of The Clouds, The Book Of Souls, The Red And The Black in this record (as many others in many other albums) while they feature quite different sections. Because that''s what prog Maiden does and does it well. And Man Of Sorrows is far from being prog Maiden.
Once again after what you wrote all I can say is agreed to disagree since I find it so detached from my perspective (especially that part of TMOS being more proggy than TRATB ...WTF?). If you don't understand my point of view I'm not going to explain it any further.Not sure if you know what I was talking about. Your review for Shadow was very negative. And you review for The Man of Sorrows wasn't (that much). Moreover, it praised several qualities. This difference between your writings for these songs is not shining through in your rating. On the contrary.
The positivity (and the large portion of it) in your review is not represented well by the grade. The Man of Sorrow far from prog Maiden? Depending on what we define as proggy, I'd say it has proggy bits for sure. More than the Red and Black which is long but also one of the songs with the least variety in the complete catalogue.
That intro, it never belonged to another song. It was a piece on its own indeed, but did not belong to another song.
Am I the only one that doesn't notice/care about the Shadows/Wasted Years intro similarity? There must be a couple of notes difference, Shadows leans towards menacing, Wasted leans towards melancholy. For me, the tone/feel of the 2 is completely different.
Depends regarding what you listen to. There's lots of refreshing bands popping here and there. Plus I won't go any further with what you can do with those 12 notes but just tell you this: you have 9 major scales in western music. From scales of 12 notes (chromatic) to 4 to 2 notes (diatonic). Mix that with dynamic fluctuation, shifts on timbre and especially time signatures. This particular last element is quite effective: it's the reason why songs like Afraid To Shoot Strangers, Phantom Of The Opera, Blood Brothers, Brighter Than A Thousand Suns, Where Eagles Dare and some others sound so distinct: all of them have major lengthy parts with unusual time signatures (than aren't your usual 4 by 4). There's no excuse... the combinations are still limitless.I think that we in 2021 are way past when Metal sounds new and fresh altogether. There are 12 actual notes in western music. Riffs are going to sound similar. We're not talking Gamma Ray ripoffs here.
The drumming at the end of The Man of Sorrows is what it makes the song a bit proggy to me. Perhaps jazzy even. It's very loose, and with a-typical (variation on) patterns.