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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Natalie, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Onderzeeboot (under sea boat)
    Duikboot (dive boat)

    A vessel that can move itself underwater.
  2. jazz from hell

    jazz from hell Ancient Mariner

    This might go back to @Natalie's argument, that scientists shouldn't be put on a pedestal:
    Been reading about how Ghanaian rhythms got transcribed totally wrong by European musicologists, before a guy called A. M. Jones for the first time got it right in about 1960. Apparently his predecessors were not only completely clueless but at the same time extremely arrogant, with the attitude that they were the academic experts, and of course Germany-Austria had generously given the high culture to the world, whereas everything else was below.
  3. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Perhaps these were very complicated rhythms, at least to Europeans?
  4. jazz from hell

    jazz from hell Ancient Mariner

    Yep. The so-called primitives were way ahead of the completely clueless academics.
  5. Natalie

    Natalie Insect of Terror Staff Member

    I don't know much about Ghanaian rhythms but as I've understood music history broadly, European music developed chords whereas music from the Middle East was more about melodies, and music from sub-Saharan Africa had intricate rhythm sections. Understandable then that academics from Europe would have a hard time transcribing Ghanaian rhythms correctly...and it highlights the problem with knowledge passing through the lens of a limited (privileged) few.
  6. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Now you two are just making excuses for unacceptable attitude. As a scientist, first you need to objectively assess your limits. I won't deal with quantum algorithms because it's out of my territory. Simple as that.
    These are simple assholes and academia is full of them. If a society has 10% of people with higher education, that doesn't mean standard distribution is out - you're going to have pathological liars, egomaniacs, narcissists, etc. in that group also.

    That's why Jazz says don't put'em on a pedestal, before you actually verify the authenticity of an author. Author's academic degree should give you a green light to read the work in the first place, but you shouldn't turn off your critical thinking brain centre yet.
  7. Natalie

    Natalie Insect of Terror Staff Member

    I don't know anything about these academics and yeah, they probably were racist assholes just based on timeframe. But (a) that's not hugely constructive and (b) we actually don't know that they were asshats...although the question of whether they should get the benefit of the doubt is another.
  8. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    What is not hugely constuctive, my post? Are you aware that the point of my post is 'destructiveness' that these scientists really do while using wrong approach against the subject matter and the scientific process itself?
  9. jazz from hell

    jazz from hell Ancient Mariner

    I don't understand this conclusion. Could you elaborate?
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    It's pretty cool too for tourists (taking pictures). *click*

    150ft iceberg, which dwarfs nearby town of Ferryland, becomes tourist attraction as number of icebergs moving into North Atlantic shipping lanes spikes

    ... A towering iceberg is causing traffic jams in a remote town on Canada’s east coast, as tourists jostle for a glimpse of the mass of ice sitting in shallow water just off Newfoundland.

    The iceberg, which has dwarfed the nearby small town of Ferryland, is estimated to measure some 46 metres (150ft) at its highest point. ...

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  11. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    I actually wanted to post some reference before I even clicked. One off proper Maiden England should be done there.
  12. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

  13. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    So, Saudi Arabia became the first country to give a robot citizenship. Attempting to promote Saudi Arabia as a place to develop artificial intelligence – and, presumably, allow it to become a full citizen. Unfortunately the same rights aren't afforded to many humans in the country.
  14. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    I've seen this before...

  15. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Prehistoric, Dinosaur-Era Shark With Insane Teeth Found Swimming Off Coast of Portugal
    (more links in article)

    The rare frilled shark is considered a “living fossil” because evidence of its existence dates back to at least 80 million years ago. This summer, researchers found one alive and thriving off the coast of Portugal, uncovering more clues about the resilience of this ancient sea creature.

    The researchers who discovered the shark off the Algarve coast were working on a European Union project in the area, the BBC reported. The goal of the project was to "minimize unwanted catches in commercial fishing," the researchers told SIC Noticisas TV, as the BBC noted, but the team unknowingly unearthed one of the rarest and most ancient animals on the planet.

    Scientists believe the frilled shark has remained the same, both inside and out, since the Cretaceous Period, when the Tyrannosaurus rex and Triceratops still roamed the planet. The creature, known by scientists as Chlamydoselachus anguineus, is incredibly simple and unevolved, most likely due to the lack of nutrients found in its deep-sea dwellings. A Japanese study of the shark found in Suruga Bay, Japan, revealed that its diet is 61 percent cephalopods—the class to which squids and octopus belong.

    This fish is rarely seen by humans but has lived on the Earth since long before man. Awashima Marine Park/Getty Images

    This deep-sea dweller is usually found between 390 and 4,200 feet below the surface, which is why it’s rarely seen and wasn’t even discovered before the 19th century (despite being around long before humans).

    The shark caught this summer measured around 5 feet in length, but at their longest, they can be around 6-and-a-half feet, IFL Science reported. Another study of a Suruga Bay inhabitant showed that frilled sharks may also have the longest gestation period of any living creature, 42 months.

    Its name may sound unfitting for a beast that swims the deep seas, but as Mental Floss explained, the frilled shark is named after its gills. Pretty much all other sharks have separate gills, but the frilled shark’s first pair of gills stretch all the way across its throat. In total, the shark has six pairs of gills that have “frilly” edges.

    [​IMG] This living fossil has remained unchanged for 80 million years.

    The shark also has a unique mouth shape. Its jaw has more than 300 teeth neatly lined in 25 rows that, according to professor Margarida Castro of the University of the Algarve, are specifically designed to help it “to trap squid, fish and other sharks in sudden lunges,” The Portugal News reported. It’s lined with spines called dermal denticles that, combined with the teeth, give the mouth an all-around frightening look.

    It’s unlikely you will ever come face-to-face with a living frilled shark. But if you do, it’s safe to say: Keep as far away as you can, and whatever you do, try to avoid its ferociously awesome jaw.

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