Run For Your Lives World Tour 2026 Rumours and Speculation

Aggelos said:
whatever you say boss...
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So 90% of the entire Future Past tour was less succesful than Athens 2022?

If you play a 40k stadium (because the capacity was never going to be 70k anyway) and draw a crowd of 26k, the show sold poorly. Sad to say, but that's what it is. And I guees it came as a surprise for the band as well, since when they played their show in 2018 it was packed.
 
ShadowOfTheGods said:
So 90% of the entire Future Past tour was less succesful than Athens 2022?

If you play a 40k stadium (because the capacity was never going to be 70k anyway) and draw a crowd of 26k, the show sold poorly. Sad to say, but that's what it is. And I guees it came as a surprise for the band as well, since when they played their show in 2018 it was packed.
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whatever you say boss....
 
Blood On The World´s Hand said:
Most likely, as thanks heavens there will be no 3rd leg in 2027. Although it would in a way be amusing if they dropped a few classics and made way for rarer material. Give Europeans what they don't want (hits) and give americans what they don't want (deep cuts).
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I mean, this has kinda happened before. The Final Frontier 2010 was primarily North America and it consisted of reunion era deep cuts. 2011 contained a lot more hits and barely touched USA.

The interesting thing is that the use of screens opens the door for setlist adjustments, but this feels like a perfectly formulated setlist for a North American audience. I could see some minor adjustments but overall I wouldn't put any money on different songs.
 
That's the perfect setlist for a North American audience, although even in Berlin people went to grab a beer at the quiet parts of Rime and SSOASS, which I found weird.
 
damage_case said:
I'm sure the booking of the venues for 2023 was already finished before the show in 2022 took place. So the lack of Athen in 2023 wasn't a consequence of poor ticket sales.

I know bands that know their tour plans two years in advance, or start booking venues that long in advance. Therefore, I believe that a band of the size of Maiden can look ahead several years and know what is planned for, say, 2028.

This whole COVID situation has certainly thrown a lot of things into disarray, and I've been wondering for a while what Maiden's tour schedule would have looked like without COVID. Would there have been a 'pure' Senjutsu tour (without) SIT in 2021/22? What would have happened between a Senjutsu/TFP tour and the anniversary tour?
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I believe they would have done a pure Senjutsu tour in 2021-22, a SIT tour the next 2 years, and then the current RFYL tour.
 
Prowler said:
That's the perfect setlist for a North American audience, although even in Berlin people went to grab a beer at the quiet parts of Rime and SSOASS, which I found weird.
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I remember the quiet section in 2013 dampening the overall mood of the audience quite a bit in Oberhausen, Gemany back in 2013.
To be honest, I've never liked the quiet section in Rime, so hearing that live were some rather boring minutes.

That said, given the prices paid to attend such a concert I'd never willingly go and miss any song (or parts of a song) if not absolutely necessary. They could play a song I hated and I'd still stay there.
 
ProwlerInTheRueMorgue said:
But he is right though. If you book and pay for a venue holding 40K, and only book 26K it is seen as disappointing from the organizer perspective, especially if you managed to sell out in all other countries. Ask anyone that books concerts.
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He isn't though.
Anyone can pull numbers out of their ass and say "hey, I'm right". But can they somehow back these numbers? That's a whole other story.
The link I posted from touring data says the gig had an 87% attendance which means 30K tickets and not 40K.
That is a pretty well scoped concert, very close to the actual demand.
If you don't make money out of that then it's not the band's or the fan's fault, it's your fault. You're a bad businessman. And yes the 2018 gig was legendary, but these things don't happen every day and the circumestances were special. I happen to know people, including the owner, at the agency that brought them over and I straggle to believe that they got it so wrong. They have years of experience organizing gigs. I'd say they git it just right.
And regarding the "argument" that it simply didn;t do better than the Future Past tour. Well numbers don't lie. If the gig sold more tickets, then yes it did better. The fact that they played in smaller venues is not an argument. If there was bigger demand they'd play bigger venues.
I think the fact that Athens did not get a gig is a combination of logistics, Bruce and maybe luck. Maybe it just didn't fit the itinerary.
 
Aggelos said:
But can they somehow back these numbers?
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There is the official boxscore for that show.

Aggelos said:
Well numbers don't lie. If the gig sold more tickets, then yes it did better.
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So Berlin 2025 was less succesful than Gelsenkirchen 2025?

Aggelos said:
If there was bigger demand they'd play bigger venues.
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Says who? 90% of the venues on the Future Past tour were small(er than usual) and most of them they've sold out immediately. So when U2 or whoever else is playing an arena instead of a stadium it's because of demand?

Aggelos said:
I think the fact that Athens did not get a gig is a combination of logistics, Bruce and maybe luck. Maybe it just didn't fit the itinerary.
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That, but if it was a good choice for them to get back there you can rest assured they would've throw Greece in the itinerary. The Bruce-gate is nonsense, since he literally played his solo show there.
 
ShadowOfTheGods said:
There is the official boxscore for that show.


So Berlin 2025 was less succesful than Gelsenkirchen 2025?


Says who? 90% of the venues on the Future Past tour were small(er than usual) and most of them they've sold out immediately. So when U2 or whoever else is playing an arena instead of a stadium it's because of demand?


That, but if it was a good choice for them to get back there you can rest assured they would've throw Greece in the itinerary. The Bruce-gate is nonsense, since he literally played his solo show there.
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do you have a link for the official boxscore?
Regarding venue sizes, so what, you think they undersold themselves or that the promoter did not want to make money? If they booked smaller venues it's because the promoter did not believe there was a much bigger demand to justify a bigger place.
Regarding Bruce, At his solo show flares were not exactly flying left and right. At a Maiden show though, especially one featuring Alexander.... it's not a beef, he just does not want to deal with flares.
 
Aggelos said:
Regarding venue sizes, so what, you think they undersold themselves or that the promoter did not want to make money? If they booked smaller venues it's because the promoter did not believe there was a much bigger demand to justify a bigger place.
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Absolutely, after selling out 5 stadium shows in Germany the previous year promoters believed that in 2023 there would have been no demand and they booked arenas instead.

Aggelos said:
do you have a link for the official boxscore?
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It's the same that you reported. Is 26k in a 70k stadium a good result? If it was a 70k capacity field in the middle of nowhere maybe, yeah, but if they managed to minimize the capacity to 30k (so a lot less than the previous visit) then it's just not good, not good enough for a quck return at least.
I'm sure they will return at some point, but it won't surely be another "stadium" show. Either arena or festival (or a smaller stadium).
 
@ShadowOfTheGods, Aggelos literally told you that he knows the people and the booking agency involved. You don't have to always double down, especially not when talking to someone who clearly knows better than you, ya know? lol

Just say "my bad" and move on. No need to flaunt an ego on an online forum.
 
We all know that the Olympic Stadium in Greece has a "flexible" capacity. 70 to 75K tops for massive gigs and then it scales down depending on what the promoter expects to sell. 87% of released tickets sold is a pretty good result and proves the gig was scaled properly. Not sure which other venue could hold that gig. The "field" as we call Terra Vibe belongs to a rival agency, not to mention the complications that the heads of these two agencies used to be married.
 
Aggelos said:
We all know that the Olympic Stadium in Greece has a "flexible" capacity. 70 to 75K tops for massive gigs and then it scales down depending on what the promoter expects to sell. 87% of released tickets sold is a pretty good result and proves the gig was scaled properly. Not sure which other venue could hold that gig. The "field" as we call Terra Vibe belongs to a rival agency, not to mention the complications that the heads of these two agencies used to be married.
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Agree
 
Back on topic, apparently Ticketcorner has Maiden on their ticket alerts (according to some people, I can't find them there).
Interlaken? Might clash with other festivals.
Don't think they will attempt Letizground despite having selling out Hallestadion in minutes.
 
Does anyone know how quickly and where the actual attendance figures for the 2025 shows just gone can be viewed.

I looked on Boxscore at the two shows i attended in 2023 , both were full but only 11.5k & 8.9k respectively so no wonder the stadium show this year felt on another level completely.

Sorry might be back off topic again!!
 
I mean, attendance figures, booking history, arenas vs stadiums and so on, those are all pretty interesting topics. Maybe we should open a dedicated thread to talk about that?

Then we wouldn't have to worry about going off topic, and it could shine a spotlight on some interesting information.
 
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