RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 2025 Tour Thread *SPOILERS INSIDE*

Kalata said:
Do you think they can't change 2 songs that were played during the previous 2 tours? They have many 80's hits.
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The setlist is completely made up of songs that are unchangeable if you're just viewing this as the ultimate Maiden live experience. If "Murders" wasn't the opener then you could argue that one, but it's part of the 'Killers world' now. The only song you could change out is "The Clairvoyant" for "The Evil That Men Do" and that would be a dumb decision.
 
Vaenyr said:
Adrian has said in interviews that he is very much against using AI in art (or at least in songwriting), so I can believe that the band likes to honor real artists rather than AI tech bros.

But then you see images like the one I attached and I fail to see how a human artist would end up portraying a bow and arrow in that manner. Maybe the animations were rushed and some of the stuff is still being worked on, but that looks outrageously bad. The question then is if it was indeed AI or a human who fucked up.
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That's A-grade slop right there. No human would produce something so incomprehensible, and the Rime video in general has all the hallmarks of AI all over it with how uncanny it looks. Should've fucking guessed that was also a part of the equation why the video wall makes (financial) sense - much easier to mix in generated garbage when it's in video format rather than a fully static painted image.

But hey, Adrian's against AI in songwriting and that's great - wouldn't want his career to be threatened by artificially generated nonsense.
 
Starblind said:
It made me very sad that Maiden was so resistant to the demands of their true fans on this tour. This is getting really weird. They resisted and ignored our request of Alexander the Great for a long time, then miraculously we managed to see this song on stage, and it was the climax for most people on the previous tour. So we were right and we thought surprises like this could continue...

Then we came across a slightly changed version of Somewhere Back in Time!

Another disappointment is that we are criticized by some fans for criticizing the band. This is really absurd. If it were up to the band and these fans, we would be content with the song pool of 20 songs forever! Let's be honest, this is why Maiden can't be Metallica. If you can't present your magnificent discography to people, then everyone will think your music is just about just Run, Hallowed, Wrathchild and Trooper.

We forced Maiden to change 1-2 songs in a quarter of a century, while Metallica plays 40 songs in total for 2 days in a row without repeating any song! Ok their song structures are easier for them to learn the songs just before the show, but you are Iron Maiden, the true trail blazer in every area of this music genre... You should include more deep cuts in your songs that show the deepness of your music.
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They royally fucked up Battery the other week there. The drawbacks of having a rotating setlist.

 
its_ArchroniX said:
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Found on Instagram. Lovely picture! It's great to see Simon smiling and having a great time and being accepted by so many fans.
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Simon's acceptance by the fans probably brings a big smile to their faces. It's the right thing to do. I'd say the good comments are more than the hate. It's normal. And he seems pretty happy to be playing with the band, and they interact with him too.
 
Vaenyr said:
Adrian has said in interviews that he is very much against using AI in art (or at least in songwriting), so I can believe that the band likes to honor real artists rather than AI tech bros.

But then you see images like the one I attached and I fail to see how a human artist would end up portraying a bow and arrow in that manner. Maybe the animations were rushed and some of the stuff is still being worked on, but that looks outrageously bad. The question then is if it was indeed AI or a human who fucked up.
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Reminds me of the unfinished version of the Wildest Dreams video that was put out to time with the single release (they couldn't finish it on time). That looked janky in places. So, there is a chance that this is unfinished and could be corrected in due course.

But yeah, that shot there looks very AI.
 
Vaenyr said:
Adrian has said in interviews that he is very much against using AI in art (or at least in songwriting), so I can believe that the band likes to honor real artists rather than AI tech bros.

But then you see images like the one I attached and I fail to see how a human artist would end up portraying a bow and arrow in that manner. Maybe the animations were rushed and some of the stuff is still being worked on, but that looks outrageously bad. The question then is if it was indeed AI or a human who fucked up.
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I thought that bit from the Rime of the Ancient Mariner animation was particularly poor. Slow motion albatross attacking man who is firing an arrow without a bow? :lol:
 
Spaldy said:
Reminds me of the unfinished version of the Wildest Dreams video that was put out to time with the single release (they couldn't finish it on time). That looked janky in places. So, there is a chance that this is unfinished and could be corrected in due course.

But yeah, that shot there looks very AI.
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It's definitely a mix of original animation and AI generated one. Anyone who had the slightest contact with that stuff can easily spot the blunders. Even so, I think overall it is a monster of a set with a tremendous impact. Too bad they didn't walk the extra mile instead of featuring those garbage details. Hey... could be worse. Imagine animations as bad as Dance Of Death's cover CGI renditions... the horror!!!!
 
Diesel 11 said:
The setlist is completely made up of songs that are unchangeable if you're just viewing this as the ultimate Maiden live experience. The only song you could change out is "The Clairvoyant" for "The Evil That Men Do"
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True that. For the 80's.
Diesel 11 said:
If "Murders" wasn't the opener then you could argue that one, but it's part of the 'Killers world' now.
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By worlds they meant the visual aspect of each individual song. If I have to come up with separate worlds in the set:

- songs 1-5 are early days world.
- songs 6-10 are Powerslave world (they just had to swap Clairvoyant with Trooper, and to have a SSOASS like theme)
- then Seventh Son, Trooper and Hallowed are their own worlds, while the encores are with no themes (like Legacy tour).
 
Ruflux said:
No human would produce something so incomprehensible
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Vaenyr said:
Adrian has said in interviews that he is very much against using AI in art (or at least in songwriting), so I can believe that the band likes to honor real artists rather than AI tech bros.

But then you see images like the one I attached and I fail to see how a human artist would end up portraying a bow and arrow in that manner. Maybe the animations were rushed and some of the stuff is still being worked on, but that looks outrageously bad. The question then is if it was indeed AI or a human who fucked up.
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It seems like AI to me, the whole ROTAM video.
 
Vaenyr said:
It's the one I'm suspecting the most of using AI. There are plenty of really well done animations throughout the show and I'm sure most of it was done by human artists. But there are certain scenes (mostly in Rime) that give legitimacy to the AI complaints.
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That's the only one, I think.
 
7th son said:
My experience from Budapest both nights: I lost it on Phantom, everyone else around me on TNOTB, I lost it on Clairvoyant and Powerslave, everyone else on 2MTM, I lost it on Rime, everyone else on RTTH, I lost it on 7th son, everyone around me on Trooper. . .

Hardcore fans are maybe 10% of people that go to shows, and that could also be generous honestly.
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Agreed. That was exactly my experience as well.
 
Ruflux said:
That's A-grade slop right there. No human would produce something so incomprehensible, and the Rime video in general has all the hallmarks of AI all over it with how uncanny it looks. Should've fucking guessed that was also a part of the equation why the video wall makes (financial) sense - much easier to mix in generated garbage when it's in video format rather than a fully static painted image.

But hey, Adrian's against AI in songwriting and that's great - wouldn't want his career to be threatened by artificially generated nonsense.
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Well, Bruce promised stuff they've never done before and AI visuals is definitely something I wouldn't expect in my wildest dreams, so he was right in that regard.

I mean, Hevy Devy was using AI visuals in his shows recently, and he's much less of a "boomer" (besides, he's not alone; the absolute cringe Jordan Rudess has been giving us is not enough, apparently he uses music generators as well and the recent AI album art is also an embarassment).

It's cheaper, cause you don't need to pay anyone (I mean, AI did copy it from somewhere, but that's their problem, lol), many people won't even know the difference and of those that do, many won't mind anyway. Much easier to do elaborate stage show this way.

I was praising Maiden for many things in this thread, but this shite sucks and kinda pisses me off, although it probably could be expected.

Anyway, the band that won't ever use AI is my next favourite band, whoever it will be.
 
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