FearOfTheLark
Prowler
Phahaha. Dark times and tin ears
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 2025 Tour Thread *SPOILERS INSIDE*
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"Steve, the mix... we can't hear the rhythm guitar at all on this track..."
TaaviMaiden
Educated Fool
But Steve's hearing has improved again. I think we can now fairly say that he didn't choose Simon because he has now completely lost his mind or his hearing, as some people originally ‘knew’.
Maybe tips from Mick Jagger/participation in Mick's training plan?
Maybe tips from Mick Jagger/participation in Mick's training plan?
FearOfTheLark
Prowler
Man on the edge...of hearing loss
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Zurich 2022 and he was standing on the monitors ,not jumping. After the second hip before Future past tour he doesnt jump or stand on the monitors
My last iron maiden show.
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BludBrutha
Ancient Mariner
Since everything is on the fucking screen now maybe they should just put the entire band on the screen. Then Bruce can jump on the monitors, Gers and Steve can run around and Nicko can play drums. Simple.
Zootvtourist
Prowler
This. Me for example so far I‘ve had the chance to attend two different Maiden-Tours in my life (2000; 2023). I’ve missed other tours for several reasons (work, time, family, temporary lack of interest, no Bruce, money, illnesses). Now I‘m hoping for the Stuttgart Show 2025 to happen, because this very setlist is a kind of ‚Dreams come true‘ for someone who bought „Live After Death“ when it was released. My money very well spent on my first Double LP. And what a powerful treasure this album still is.
„Aces High“ has always been one of my favourite songs, as „Run To The Hills“, as „Rime Of The Ancient Mariner“ and „Powerslave“ because of this personal fan history. Hoping now to finally celebrate them live.
By the way: Hello everybody here, a great place to be!
1st posting tonight from somebody who‘s missed „Flight Of Icarus“ and went 2023 because of the SIT-songs live, including my very favourite Maiden-tune: „Alexander The Great“.
Belshazzar
Yer Mum Can't Come
Jesus Fucking Christ. So much negativity lately in this thread.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Yax
Ancient Mariner
That's how it has been ever since 2010. It's an endless cycle. It goes like this (some stages can co-exist):
Step A) Everybody is thrilled, unless a sub-group is disappointed with the setlist (or lately performances). Then the posts will increasingly be about grievances and the thrilled fans countering that narrative.
Step B ) There is an uptick in excitement, and those initially negative are warming up to the idea that they are once again seeing Maiden
Step C) Why, oh why, are they playing Wrathchild?
Step D) Somebody messes up something or looks uninspired in a video or two: "What is up with member X!?"
Step E) I know this tour is cool and all, but can they please drop song X and replace with Y?
Step F) The negative posts nitpicking performances, often in exaggerated language with recurring expletives take over.
Step F1) The excited fans become annoyed, ask why there is so much negativity. Arguments about yay-sayers vs naysayers ("we love Maiden. That's why we are critical!!! We can't accept any standard of performance just because it's Maiden" vs "Maiden are in their career Twilight years. They aren't going to be in their 2005 state, and still maintain a good enough standard. They are almost 70 years, enjoy the possibly final tour")
Step F2) The average, non-critical/whinging fan stay away from the thread
Step G) The Negative Mob Rules.
Step H) Tour is over
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I think this time around it's not that dramatic. Some fans don't like the screens and especially the AI shit, some others wanted some more deep cuts, and everyone complains about Aces Low (rightfully so). Fair complaints overall, imo.
(I wanted some more deep cuts, but don't really care. The AI shit really bothers me and distracts me and Aces is so bad, but not worse than 2022 imo. At least now the band is tighter.)
The truth is the positives aren't discussed as much. Dave is at his best, Adrian is as good as ever etc. Bruce is outstanding if we exclude Aces, Hallowed and sometimes Murders and some hearing issues.
(I wanted some more deep cuts, but don't really care. The AI shit really bothers me and distracts me and Aces is so bad, but not worse than 2022 imo. At least now the band is tighter.)
The truth is the positives aren't discussed as much. Dave is at his best, Adrian is as good as ever etc. Bruce is outstanding if we exclude Aces, Hallowed and sometimes Murders and some hearing issues.
Starblind
Ancient Mariner
on one hand it's the honest fan reviews, some of the fans are musicians and they have high standards for this high standard band (of course), but on the other hand i see some psychoanalysis, killing your father motivation and ego there.
my point of view is, under the circumstances (age and the life they built for themselves etc) they are doing their best. and there are plenty things to respect these guys. most of the bands at their age lay on their legacy and just hang around. but maiden still works, they even work outside of maiden.
still, no infinite dreams and always wrathchild bugs me of course
my point of view is, under the circumstances (age and the life they built for themselves etc) they are doing their best. and there are plenty things to respect these guys. most of the bands at their age lay on their legacy and just hang around. but maiden still works, they even work outside of maiden.
still, no infinite dreams and always wrathchild bugs me of course
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Yes, and that's what is so damn draining and why I, and certainly others, are not engaging as much as we would like in this thread.
I'm thrilled over having seen Maiden again, for the first time since Legacy 2018. I know this may well be the last time, so I'm cherishing in and I had a damn good time at the show. Maiden were brilliant and the crowd loved it, while sure, being more passive these days, as that's how people's show manners are these days. Like, I remember when Steve and co started talking about the possible retirement in 2006. I sure dind't imagine 20 years of albums and shows when I read that interview back in the day.
(Note how we are at stage F1 currently
)dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
I dont like the screens. I like it on the amps,the backdrops during some songs but during iron maiden is awful. The band sounds good for me
Yax
Ancient Mariner
I personally love the screens. It is refreshing, especially after how there have been recurring points on this board how they need to do something about their stage design, as the same basic stage design, the stage skeleton, has been used since like 2000 or so. Some were asking for something different, and got it.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
Hi all, Great post from Yax, summed up my thoughts and inspired me to finally sign up to the forum and post something after years of reading it only.
Been a fan since buying Piece Of Mind in 1983 and have dropped in and out of love with the band over the years for various reasons. Outside of the mid 80`s peak this last 20 years or so has been an absolute joy to watch especially live, not every reunion album floats my boat fully but the shows and setlists since 2016 have been spot on for me.
We were at the Manchester show and stood for the first time in 8 Maiden gigs , about 20 rows back and it was awesome, way more tiring and physical than we expected, i am 53 though!
The show was great, screens are to me a big positive and a modern addition, rightly or wrongly AI doesn`t bother me at a metal show. I seem to remember many on here moaning about the inflatable Sensutsu stuff in 2022 being amateur?
Everyone has their own setlist thoughts and for me they could have dropped out SSOASS personally for Infinite Dreams and opened with Prowler but the band were on fire, tight, having fun. I genuinely don`t get what people want from a band 50 years in to there career with a lead singer who`s had throat cancer, they are still incredible and i am more than happy to accept a few changes from the original recordings or peak 2000`s live performances to still get to see them perform live at that level.
On a personal note i do think the massively negative review from Capnharris online has really influenced peoples thoughts . They are of course entitled to their opinion but having seen the show first hand and close up most of their criticism is wide of the mark in my opinion and maybe they are too attached to Nicko to move on?
Anyone with tickets to upcoming shows go and enjoy it and soak it up before all we have left on here are threads about our favourite memory of Maiden when they pack it all in, nobody is filling the gap that they will leave for me.
We are off to Spain and are catching the Madrid show and the dive bar and we can`t wait for it!
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Hi, Thanks.
They reviewed the opening night gig in Budapest straight after the show and for the first time ever on their channel gave Maiden live a proper panning, she hates AI it seems. They put out a follow up video last week after their trip seeing i think 5 gigs and discussed it again in more detail and came to the same `it wasn`t for us ` conclusion. Sorry i can`t upload a link but just have a quick search on youtube , it`s worth a watch .