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Thanks for the reaction p4warrior!

@Jeff:
I am sorry if my view came across at too critical, but you didn't exactly use the nicest words either.

Let's skip it! We all have our ways, and we all have our views... :)
 
No prob, man. No need for excuses. It just seemed that you tried to make it looks like I'm not satisfied with albums as they are when I actually rearranged only 2 albums in my whole 25 and counting listening Metal life. As for the live tracklist order, I'll try to make a poster like the "Play Classics!" one and give it to the band onstage. I just think the result I'll get will be just the same as that occasion. :lol:

Cheers! :)
 
Damn you 2! Get a room! :lol:
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Jeffmetal said:
I always played my cd's on random/shuffle...

When in my car, I constantly do that with my CDs.

Butting into the conversation...

Forostar said:
I have made tons of compilations as well (mixing songs from different albums), but to constantly change album orders doesn't appeal me to me as having huge interest in the way an album was meant.

I have more examples of tapes such as this, some of which broke, than I can count.  Today, for example, I was listening to an Ozzy tape mix on the company's truck.  I do not have many mixes of songs except the one my brother made for Maiden when we first started listening to the band.

Forostar said:
When someone changes an album order, it says more about his own mood (in my view).

Of course.

Forostar said:
It's a challenge to dive into an album, the way it was meant, to adapt yourself to an album's mood.
It's the easy way to adapt an album to your own mood.

Of course.

Forostar said:
I admit that I can imagine that Talisman would fit better earlier on the album, but still I am not going to change an authentic product to give in to my own problems with that song.

Call me an oldfashioned fart, but still an interested oldfashioned fart who respects music the way it was done.

My 2 cents.

I respect your opinion, you oldfashioned fart, but I do not abide by it.  :P
Jeffmetal said:
Oh man, you're so teen, sometimes... ::)

:bigsmile:
 
You won't believe me guys, but I'm just having a déjà-vu!!! All of this Genghis Khan wrote, specially the first post about my debate with Foro. Before I did read about listening the tapes on your truck's companion, I knew how your statement ended.

I got déjà-vu all the time since ever! It's something really eerie and fascinating.
 
Jeffmetal said:
You won't believe me guys, but I'm just having a déjà-vu!!! All of this Genghis Khan wrote, specially the first post about my debate with Foro. Before I did read about listening the tapes on your truck's companion, I knew how your statement ended.

I got déjà-vu all the time since ever! It's something really eerie and fascinating.

When I made mixes of a band's material, I spent quite a bit of time planning on the order of songs.  I've planned on making a best of Maiden CDs based on a variety of periods, but I'm too lazy.  One thing I've noticed about making such compilations in the past.  If I listen to my version of best off materials repeatedly, I get a yearning for other songs.  It is like I feel I've neglected them somehow, like forgotten children, and I feel I need to listen to songs I've not given proper time.  Weirdly enough, this way I inadvertently go back and listen to these neglected songs with more attention than I would otherwise.

I'm glad to have provided you a trip down memory lane, Jeffmetal.
 
It's cool to make random compilation or just play an actual CD in random mode 'cos you'll eventually give attention to the songs you rejected at first. It's the best way to discover new passages in songs or songs you didn't like, and rediscover others you had long forgotten.

GK, this déjà-vu thing with me happens at least once a month. The feeling is really that described on those who experience it and on Maiden's song lyrics. It's like you watching a movie of what's happening in your mind, it's like a future moment that came from the past to the now.
 
Jeffmetal said:
It's cool to make random compilation or just play an actual CD in random mode 'cos you'll eventually give attention to the songs you rejected at first. It's the best way to discover new passages in songs or songs you didn't like, and rediscover others you had long forgotten.

GK, this déjà-vu thing with me happens at least once a month. The feeling is really that described on those who experience it and on Maiden's song lyrics. It's like you watching a movie of what's happening in your mind, it's like a future moment that came from the past to the now.

I do not recall the last time I had a deja-vu.  As a teenager, I do recall one particular re-occuring experience. 

Once a month?  Is it the same feeling?  Maybe this should be its own thread.
 
This topic continued nicely, hehe. Thanks for the injection Genghis!

Cool to see how a compilation tape/disc/whatever connects you with neglected songs. So this works in two directions.
 
Jeffmetal said:
Yeah... I listen to Maiden since 1985 and was waiting since then for the internet era to arrive so I could listen to the albums 'properly'. ::)

When I got NOTB on a cassette it had b-side first. Of course the vinyl can also be listened in that order.
 
It's been a month since it came out, and i've played it each day, at least once.

My top 2 Maiden albums were always : 1. SIT, 2. SSOASS. Third spot would change, but since AMOLAD clicked, it's been there.
Right now, not only that i think this album is better than AMOLAD, but i even can't answer are SIT and SSOASS better than TFF.

Maybe i've listened to those two '80s albums thousand times more, while this is still new and fresh.
And i think that first two TFF tracks + Man That Would Be King are weaker than anything on SIT and SSOASS minus CIPWM/Prophecy.

However, considering that Mother Of Mercy, Coming Home, Alchemist, Isle Of Avalon, Starblind, Talisman and When The Wild Wind Blows are longer in playtime than both SIT and SSOASS, things get rather complicated in my head. So, if this was 1990, and they just released this LP :

1. Isle Of Avalon
2. Mother Of Mercy
3. Coming Home
4. The Alchemist
5. Starblind
6. The Talisman
7. When The Wild Wind Blows

In my ears, it would kick every other Maiden album right up the ass!
 
I actually realized that it surpasses it in my book.

Basically, the only decent songs on AMOLAD are the first three (with Different World being a stretch), Longest Day and FTGGOG, while I really like all of the songs on TFF.

I never got into Benjamin Breeg, Lord of Light and The Legacy.
 
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