Official Football Thread

Cool:

Van The Man, Ruud van Nistelrooij has scored again for the Dutch team (in a spectacular match).
With this goal he managed to climb up to the 3rd position (next to Faas Wilkes) of Holland's alltime scorer list.

Faas Wilkes* needed only 38 matches (between 1946 and 1961) for his 35 goals!

Topscorers Oranje:         goals   (matches)
1. Patrick Kluivert             40      (79)
2. Dennis Bergkamp           37      (79)
3. Faas Wilkes*                35      (38)
  Ruud van Nistelrooij        35      (70)
5. Abe Lenstra                  33      (47)
  Johan Cruijff                  33      (48)
7. Bep Bakhuys                 28      (23)
8. Kick Smit                      26      (29)
  Klaas-Jan Huntelaar        26      (42)
10. Marco van Basten        24      (58)

Do you guys have such lists for your country? England, Norway, and others?  :ok:
 
England (from wiki):

1 Bobby Charlton  1958–1970 49 (106) 0.4623
2 Gary Lineker 1984–1992 48 (80) 0.6000
3 Jimmy Greaves 1959–1967 44 (57) 0.7719
4 Michael Owen 1998–2008 40 (89) 0.4494
5 Tom Finney 1946–1958 30 (76) 0.3947
6 Nat Lofthouse 1950–1958 30 (33) 0.9091
7 Alan Shearer 1992–2000 30 (63) 0.4762
8 Vivian Woodward 1903–1911 29 (23) 1.2609
9 Steve Bloomer 1895–1907 28 (23) 1.2174
10 Wayne Rooney 2003- 28 (70) 0.4

You can see from that that Nat Lofthouse has a very comparable record to that of Fass Wilkes but Linekers record deserves a mention.

By the way, the England/Ghana match was pretty good tonight. Especially when players like Lampard, Terry, Rooney, Gerrard, etc. were all missing.
 
Thanks Albie, that was interesting.  :ok:
Looks like only one of those players is still active. Rooney can climb a lot because the diffence with the people above him is small. In the Dutch list, two are still active.

What's extra special about Wilkes (who was the big example for Cruijff) is that, for a prolonged period of his career, June 1949 through till March 1955, he was banned from the national team since the KNVB did not allow professional players to participate.

Ridiculous rule, the KNVB apparently didn't like it that players earned money (were professional) and therefore they weren't allowed to play for the national team, at least not Wilkes, who did the first huge international transfer (3 Dutch guys went before him, but his transfer to Internationale was a big deal those days). Holland was very behind in those days, I guess.  :mad:

But can you imagine how many more goals he might have made, if he did play from 1949-1955?

(Still, til 1998 he was the record holder)
 
If memory serves me correct, Rooney has only just got into that list after a good season in 2009 - where he bagged something like 10 goals. The player he ousted was Bryan Robson. Had it not been for a lot of injuries, I reckon Owen would of easily topped that list before retiring.
 
Plus, if Rooney avoid injuries (and suspensions) he's got a decent chance of getting somewhere near the Most Appearances record.

Albie said:
By the way, the England/Ghana match was pretty good tonight. Especially when players like Lampard, Terry, Rooney, Gerrard, etc. were all missing.
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It was a very good match last night, the best friendly I can remember, and most of the second XI players did well. It's good see players like Ashley Young with confidence, because then you see shots rather than passing back and back again.
 
It is obviously worse to say bad words to a camera than trying to cut an opponent's leg in two.

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No headlines.

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BAN HIM!

And the FA consider punishment: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6851860,00.html

I say, fucking what? What? Fuck off. The world is officially mad.
 
He'll get a fine, I reckon. Anything more will be a bit harsh.

As for the Chelsea player (Essien?) - he didn't even get booked. According to this, just a free kick:

40:05 Michael Essien gives away a free kick for an unfair challenge on Jermaine Pennant. Free kick crossed by Jermaine Pennant, clearance by Didier Drogba.
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That is why there was no headlines. Doesn't make it right, but that's life. ;)

In fairness, that should have been a red. But the way the game is ruled is that video evidence can't be used to punish a player for a tackle. So he will get away with it.
 
Is there a reason why there's no bigger drive in football to use video replay/video evidence? It seems to crop up often enough as a discussion.
 
I suppose if I was presiding over the most popular and profitable sport in the world, I'd be pretty cautious about upsetting the apple cart too.
 
It's because they like to steal money.
You cannot fix a game if you have tons of cameras around that can be used as real-time judging evidence.
 
It's obvious that video technology should be used to some extent. Instead, they just add a couple of goons behind the goals holding magic wands, who look away the instant a decision might have to be made.

And Rooney, seriously, why is he so angry?
 
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